JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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> "Pete C." > wrote in message
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> > George wrote:
> >>
> >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >> > "George" > wrote in message
> >> > . ..
> >> >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> So, they use too much oil. So do you. You happily buy products in
> >> >>> excessive packaging. Might be made from recycled plastic, might not.
> >> >>> You
> >> >>> don't care, though, as long as it's convenient for you.
> >> >> Anyone with an aircraft carrier vehicle is wasting oil way above and
> >> >> beyond what they and others might be wasting on "convenience".
> >> >>
> >> >> Also not everyone "happily buys products in excessive packaging". We
> >> >> take
> >> >> reusable bags to the store so we aren't wasting plastic and often buy
> >> >> products at smaller merchants and farm markets etc where minimal or no
> >> >> packaging is used. I am quite sure we are not the only ones.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I never said "everyone". I'm focused right now on Om's hypocrisy. She
> >> > points
> >> > to passenger tanks as wasteful, but chooses to buy products with
> >> > excessive
> >> > packaging. And, it doesn't really matter if the stuff is recycled. It
> >> > still
> >> > uses energy to make that happen.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> You are missing my point. Suppose family "A" and family "B" are
> >> identical in every way (including buying overpackaged items)except
> >> family "A" has his & hers personal aircraft carriers in the driveway and
> >> family "B" has normal cars. Which one is more wasteful?
> >
> > Insufficient information. Annual mileage / use of vehicle required for a
> > relevant answer.
>
> I assumed family A had a couple of Escalades and family B had something like
> a couple of Corollas. You don't need gas mileage data to take it from there.
> The only Corolla that gets 12 mpg (like an Escalade) is a broken Corolla.

Family A Parent(s) work(s) from home, does the homestead thing (no
grocery shopping), home school the kids and only leave the enclave once
a week to go to church.

Family B Parents both work, 15 mile and 20 mile commutes, grocery shop
three times a week at the store 8 miles away because they aren't
organized, drive kids to school, sports, etc., older kids drive all over
the place to see friends.

Not good to make assumptions...