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On Aug 2, 5:31 pm, Derek > wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:41:47 -0700, Rupert > wrote:
> >On Aug 1, 9:46 pm, Derek > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:57:49 -0700, Rupert > wrote:
> >> >On Aug 1, 6:28 pm, Derek > wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:41:23 -0700, Rupert > wrote:

>
> >> >> >Let me get this straight, Ball. I am perfectly happy to sign my full
> >> >> >name and photo to all my Internet activity. You, apparently, are a bit
> >> >> >uncomfortable with the idea that, within a few days, anyone will be
> >> >> >able to type your name into Google and find a record of this debate.

>
> >> >> You've provided much more than just that, you spiteful little
> >> >> prick, including a link to Lesley's spiteful little page, so take
> >> >> it down. If anyone wants to find a record of your arguments
> >> >> with him they can go through Google archives and find them
> >> >> in the usual way. There's certainly no need to publish his
> >> >> whereabouts and a photograph of him alongside your
> >> >> arguments, so take it down and stop being spiteful.

>
> >> >Let me just try to get to terms with your point of view. You think
> >> >Ball is entitled to behave in the way he behaves on this newsgroup,
> >> >and he is also entitled to expect people to graciously help him to do
> >> >it under a cloak of anonymity? Although Karen Winter is not entitled
> >> >to expect the same privilege?

>
> >> Unlike Jon, Karen is a potential threat to children, and
> >> like most other parents I feel compelled to take the right
> >> course of action against threats like her.

>
> >> I see Karen as a potential threat to children, especially
> >> while she tries to hide her identity here by lying about it
> >> after being kicked out of her parish.

>
> >> Everything I've said about her and forwarded to her
> >> church officials is true and backed by evidence from
> >> her own quotes found in Google archives. She openly
> >> promotes sex between children and adults, insisting
> >> that "responsible paedophiles" should work closely
> >> with children on a one-to-one basis (alone).

>
> >> "Pedophiles don't hate children -- they like them,
> >> enjoy being with them, love them both as sexual
> >> partners and as companions. A child-hating
> >> pedophile is a contradiction in terms. Many
> >> pedophiles and ephebophiles work in professions
> >> where they come in contact with children, and are
> >> excellent in those fields because they understand
> >> and like children, and can relate to them well on a
> >> one-to-one basis."
> >> http://tinyurl.com/2l79z

>
> >> She would have no hesitation in allowing "responsible
> >> paedophiles" access to children, including her own
> >> son..

>
> >> "I would have had no hesitation in letting my son
> >> associate with the responsible pedophiles I met."
> >> http://snipurl.com/4aej

>
> >> She believes society should stop making a big deal
> >> out of protecting vulnerable children and allow
> >> "responsible paedophiles" access to them so they
> >> can then practice oral sex on them.

>
> >> "Laws are not the answer; love is the answer.
> >> And sometimes that love is provided by caring
> >> and responsible pedophiles or ephebophiles.
> >> OTOH, sometimes it's just a quick jerk-off or
> >> blow job, and if people didn't make a big deal out
> >> of it, it wouldn't be significant at all."
> >> http://tinyurl.com/2xn8o

>
> >> She and Sylvia actively seek out positions within
> >> church communities where they can come into
> >> contact with children, even though Sylvia hates
> >> them.

>
> >> "Do I hate kids? Yes!"
> >> Swan, Date: 2000/04/09
> >> http://tinyurl.com/2f3wx

>
> >> "Get this loud and get this clear, I HATE
> >> CHILDREN. I hate YOUR children, I hate
> >> THEIR children, I hate every shit stain, every
> >> whine, squeal, drool, dribble and quiver of the
> >> little maggotty flesh loaves, ARE WE CLEAR
> >> ON THAT?!"
> >> Swan, Date: 2000/02/12
> >> http://snipurl.com/4ae8

>
> >> Those comments are of real concern to me and
> >> her church officials, and as a result she was expelled
> >> from one parish only to then flee to another
> >> which specialises in child care. Compounding my
> >> concerns are her efforts to hide from her real
> >> identity by openly lying like a common predator.

>
> >Karen's no threat to children.

>
> Her church officials certainly thought she was and kicked her
> out of her parish after thanking me for providing her quotes
> to them. Hopefully, your qualifications will mean that you
> teach older students and won't be in a position of authority
> over young children, because if you don't think she's a
> potential threat to young kids after seeing the evidence of her
> opinions on "responsible paedophiles" and her desperate
> attempts to hide her identity after being kicked out of parish,
> you become as much a threat to them as she is.- Hide quoted text -
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You're a fool, Derek.