Andy wrote:
> Dave Bugg said...
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Dan Abel said...
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> Abe > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Well it wasn't a happy 4th for us!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our place in Texas was broken into and robbed as well as
>>>>>>> ransacked!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> My solution? A double tap to the face of every scummy arsehole
>>>>>> who wants to invade someone elses home.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, unless you can PROVE that your life was in imminent
>>>>> danger, and no, the break-in alone isn't enough to prove that,
>>>>> you're looking at a very long time in jail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sad but true.
>>>>
>>>> I guess it's time to ask, what is a "double tap"? Obviously it is
>>>> force, but is it lethal or non-lethal?
>>>
>>>
>>> A double-tap is a rapid-fire two rounds from a handgun.
>>>
>>> As mentioned above, self-defense doesn't include lethal force for
>>> defending "things," rather defending the lives of yourself and those
>>> around you from imminent death, AS A LAST RESORT!!!
>>
>> If someone I don't recognize breaks into my house or business when
>> I'm present, I'll be in fear of my life. That's all that's required.
>> I don't have to 'prove' it, I just have to say it.
>
>
> NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
>
> How fast can you evaluate a threat???

Fairly quickly.

How do you REACT to a threat?

With the force necessary to neutralize it.

> "STOP!!!"? In your home or your business? I'd say you're "I just have
> to say it" would qualify you for prison time.

Nope.

Now, please, do you best to concoct a ridiculous scenario to try and make a
point.

> Suppose it was an Alzheimers person thinking he's breaking into his
> OWN home.

OK. And let's also suppose that it's a ne'er-do-well punk.

> Would you be right in using lethal force? NOPE.

For the punk or the alzheimers patient? Are you suggesting that it's ok to
use other levels of force against an alzheimers patient so long as it's NOT
lethal force? Well, shame on you!!!!! As for myself, I'd try to calm the
alheimers patient down and call the police to help him out.

I'm sorry to hear that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a
ne'er-do-well punk or when in the presence of a confused senior citizen. I'm
sure that spending time visiting at a long-term care facility and at your
local jail will help you solve that problem. In the meantime, I suggest that
you refuse to take action when faced with the scenario that you painted. You
don't want to folks to know that you would beat up a confused old man or
woman.

> But you'd
> shoot first and find out later he was your next door neighbor.

You don't know your next door neighbors? Man, Andy, you need to get out and
get to know the folks in your neighborhood.

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Dave
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