notbob wrote:

> On 2007-06-15, sf <sf> wrote:
>
> > All you need to do is watch HGTV. They don't pretend. You want to
> > do it cheap, hire cheap labor....
>
> Well, that's the whole problem, isn't it. It matters not whether they
> are here illgally and are breaking any number of laws. The bottom
> line is, you saved money. So, it's perfectly OK, right? So, what
> other laws is it ok to break just because you benefit?
>
> > I can't comment about "cookie cutter", but students from the Indian
> > Institutes of Technology are from *the* NUMBER ONE tech schools in the
> > world. They graduate the best of the best....
>
> Yeah, they're all freakin' geniuses. In the meantime, I'm still
> waiting for that first Indian IBM or Intel or Google or a single
> decent car or airplane or.... (continue endless list on your own)
>


Yeah, innovation is not their strong suit. Until recently the best -
selling car in India was the Hindustan Ambassador, a direct copy of a
50 year - old British car (an Austin or something...). They are
rather sclerotic in this regard...


> > about it. We used to "brain drain" other countries, so the US
> > doesn't have a corner on who's "smart".
>
> Yeah, and parents all over the World are sending their kids to India
> for an education instead of the US.


The US (and California in particular) still has the BEST institutions
of higher learning in the world...and will have for the forseeable
future.

[California built a top - class university infrastructure fairly
fast. Many of the technical graduates went into R&D, and this had
positive over - spill into manufacturing...a synergy was created which
is still pretty amazing today. IIRC California alone has more Nobel
Prize winners than any other place in the world...]

One problem in India is that corruption in educational institutions is
RIFE...many of the grads look good on paper but when they hit the real
world...

As for China, heard on NPR or somewhere's that ___60%___ of newly -
graduated Chinese engineers are so poorly educated as to be absolutely
unemployable - and not just in the engineering field.


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Best
Greg