Goomba38 wrote:
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> On the contrary, and I have lived where tips were done as well as
> countries where one didn't overtly tip. The price of the meal is going
> to go up with out tips as the cost will have to cover the higher wage...
> so it ends up being about the same I think. So it is just what you're
> used to. I think that a lot of cheapskates complain about tips, yet
> will also complain about paying higher prices directly too.
> IMO-If one can't afford the "service" on a meal, one should stay home.


It isn't just a matter of being cheap. I question the reason I am expected
to pay a larger tip for a more expensive dish, or a more expensive bottle
of wine. It doesn't make any more work for the server if I get a $25 bottle
of wine or a $50, but if I am expected to leave 15% either way I am getting
gouged. I also resent the income of serving staff depending on the
generosity of the customers. Some people are too cheap to tip, and when a
server gets stuck with a table or two of cheapskates they work all night
for next to nothing. If we expect people to pay something for service
chuck it into the menu price so the customers know what they are expected
to pay instead of leaving the payroll to the customers so that your prices
look more attractive. I prefer the common European practice of posting the
price that includes service and tax. What you see on the menu is what you
pay..... no surprises.