Julian Vrieslander wrote:
> "Sheldon" wrote:
> > No matter how much you spend nothing will perform better than this:
> >http://www.amazon.com/Bialetti-Moka-...000CF3Q6/ref=p....
> > 02-2462282-7529725?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1174527692&sr=8-4
>
> Sure, and there's no difference between Camembert and Gouda.

Idiot, that's apples and oranges... which proves why you know nothing
about coffee, or anything else.

> Sheldon persists in this disinformation campaign. *There's nothing wrong
> with Moka pots. *Zillions of Italians use them. *I have one, too. *I
> also have a pump espresso machine. *Most people with more than two
> functioning tastebuds can tell the difference between the coffee made in
> these devices. *A food chemist can explain that they are very different
> products, produced under very different thermodynamic conditions.
>
> > Of course you can always go cultish-egoist, just open your wallet
>
> If you only brew espresso for mixing with water or milk (cappucinos,
> lattes, Americanos), then a moka pot or other steam-based gizmo might be
> all you need.
>
> But if you like the taste, aroma, and texture of real espresso in
> straight shots, a pump machine might be worth considering. *I'm out of
> date on current products, but I second the recommendation to check the
> articles in alt.coffee.

Those imbeciles know nothing, absolutely nothing. Anyone reads the
history of coffee will learn that espresso was developed as a way to
use the crappy moldy beans by over roasting. Those burned beans were
then given to the peasants to keep then from rioting, because they
were already addicted to caffeine. Espresso in of itself is garbage
coffee anyway, no way to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear... it's
all cultish blind belief nonsense. The best anyone can do is keep it
simple and use good water. Doesn't matter how much is spent on coffee
beans and equipment, how much one plays witch doctor by roasting their
own, if the water sucks so will the coffee. Very few coffee cultists
know anything about the water, with all their noise about expensive
equipment hardly any invest in an RO filtration system, and the water
is everything. And the thing about those machines is it's impossible
to clean their plumbing, so even if one does use good water all those
machines can produce is ****. The Bialetti-Moka type unit can be
scrupulously cleaned each time it's used, nothing, NOTHING produces
better espresso. Too bad about yoose coffee newsgroupies that you
can't have a ****ing contest over the Bialetti-Moka, it's *simply* the
best[period]

Sheldon