"Pinnochio Mojo" > wrote in message
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>> THIS is what you're glossing over and ignoring.
>
> Aha! Blaming the deaths of animals and wildlife on as yet
> undescribed
> agricultural practices and farming methods.
>
> What garbage.
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No, fact and truth, fool. That you wish to remain willfully
ignorant is you choice. sane people prefer the truth.
>
> You're going to have to provide a better example than this.
> This is
> just a variation on the "X amount of dead mouses in a
> wheelbarrow"
> argument. But i see your ad hoc exclusionary principle is hard
> at work
> here. One, this willful ignorance doesn't apply to omnivores
> and those
> who indulge in a meatie-centric diet, just vegans. Very strange
> at a
> minimum.
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Nope. The only strange thing is your continued ignorance and
total lack of regard for the animals you kill, hypocrite.
>
> But more importantly... two, your statements seem rather crass,
> dull
> and inconsiderate considering the billions and billions of
> animals
> that die each year, just to end up as a source of food.
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At least fool, they have a purpose, and provide survival fo
billions of people, and other animals. The ones you kill far
more brutally and inhumanely are just left to rot. Seems pretty
crass of you, killer...
>
>> The big problem with "vegans" and "veganism" is the
>> willful blindness to reality.
>
> Just because i don't "accept" your version of reality, doesn't
> mean
> that i suffer from your sad and sorry type of willful
> blindness. So
> obviously there is no "big" problem with vegans and veganism. I
> was
> *so* hoping you could do better than these shallow and
> scripted,
> irrelevant and worthless ad hominems and gutless personal
> attacks
> uneducated troll.
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Again, you fail to understand even the simplest of words, eh
killer?
You entire lifestyle fool is built on dead bodies. especially
your entertainment here on usenet.
Usenet is the promotion of animal death and suffering in real
life, not cartoons. Power generation, distribution and
communications all combine to kill billions upon billions of
animals every year. So, usenet is very NOT vegan.
Actually, you've still failed to make a case. Just because no
animals are now on your plate doesn't mean that fewer are being
killed to produce the foods you do eat. If fact, you may even be
killing more. That's a point you've never considered, never
researched, never looked into at all. Crop production is the
definition of habitat destruction and animal mass killing.
Plowing, seeding, spraying, harvesting, processing, storing all
cause animal death and suffering. Why is being sliced, diced,
shredded, dis-memebered or poisoned to death more humane than
being killed in a slaughterhouse? I'd suggest a far more closer
inspection of the diet you eat. Exotic, imported foods and spices
are hardly more animal friendly than certain meats.
Animals die.
http://www.abcbirds.org/pesticides/pesticideindex.htm
http://www.pmac.net/summer-rivers.html
http://www.pmac.net/fishkill.htm
http://www.pmac.net/bird_fish_CA.html
http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/news...00/nitrate.htm
http://www.abcbirds.org/pesticides/P...carbofuran.htm
http://www.nwf.org/internationalwildlife/hawk.html
http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Pn36/pn36p3.htm
http://www.wwfcanada.org/satellite/p...eFactSheet.pdf
http://www.ncwildlife.org/pg07_Wildl...on/pg7f2b6.htm
http://ipm.ncsu.edu/wildlife/small_grains_wildlife.html
http://www.hornedlizards.org/hornedlizards/help.html
http://insects.tamu.edu/extension/bulletins/b-5093.html
http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/news...00/nitrate.htm
http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/fw251/
http://www.cgfi.org/materials/key_pu...oxic_Tools.pdf
http://www.ontarioprofessionals.com/organic.htm
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm
http://www.biotech-info.net/deadly_chemicals.html
http://www.agnr.umd.edu/ipmnet/4-2art1.htm
http://europa.eu.int/comm/environmen...ing_annex1.pdf
Since your non-animal clothing isn't cruelty-free either,
here's a couple to cover some problems with cotton.
http://www.panna.org/panna/resources...Cotton.dv.html
http://www.sustainablecotton.org/TOUR/
http://www.gbr.wwf.org.au/content/problem/cotton.htm
To give you an idea of the sheer number of animals in a field,
here's some sites about *just* mice and voles. Note that there
can be 100s to 1000s in each acre, not the whole field.
http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache...state.edu/pubs
/natres/06507.pdf+%22voles+per+acre%22+field&hl=en&ie=UTF8
http://extension.usu.edu/publica/natrpubs/voles.pdf
http://extension.ag.uidaho.edu/district4/MG/voles.html
To cover the power needed for food processing and
your selfish pleasure of using usenet, and
maintaining a web page on same, here's are a couple
dealing with power and communications.
http://www.closeindianpoint.org/articles/tjn_071103.htm
http://www.clearwater.org/news/powerplants.html
http://www.towerkill.com/index.html
http://www.greenenergyohio.org/page.cfm?pageId=116
http://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/capandtrade/power.pdf
http://www.nirs.org/licensedtokill/L...xecsummary.pdf
http://www.towerkill.com/index.html
http://migratorybirds.fws.gov/issues/towers/towers.htm
http://www.abcbirds.org/policy/towerkill.htm
http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/pae/es_ma...ticle_22.mhtml
http://www.netwalk.com/~vireo/devastatingtoll.html
http://www.repp.org/repp_pubs/articl.../04impacts.htm
http://www.fisheries.org/html/Public...nts/ps_2.shtml
http://www.powerscorecard.org/issue_...cfm?issue_id=5
http://www.safesecurevital.org/artic...012012004.html
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