On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:36:05 GMT, "Dutch" > wrote:

>
>"Pete <(.¿.)>" > wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:51:58 GMT, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Pete <(.¿.)>" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:45:57 GMT, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Pete <(.¿.)>" > wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>There are good arguments for eating less meat and only eating less
>>>>>>>intensively raised meat but there are not good practical health,
>>>>>>>economic or environmental reasons to stop eating all meat all
>>>>>>>together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We simply do not NEED to eat meat. That's a fact.
>>>>>
>>>>>That is a misleading statement disguised as a fact. There are no needs,
>>>>>only
>>>>>wants.
>>>>
>>>> It's a fact, we don't need meat.
>>>
>>>We don't need anything per se,
>>
>> Yes we do.
>
>No, we don't.

Oh yes we do....... Look out he's behind you!

>> We need food to survive,
>
>We don't need to survive, we WANT to survive.

We need to survive. You're an idiot.

> Need is a weasel word used by
>people attempting to impose an agenda on others.

Caring is not an agenda.

>
>> that food doesn't NEED to be meat.
>
>It doesn't NEED to be anything in particular, meat just happens to be a food
>category you dislike.

Eating meat means destroying animals and the planet wilfully,
forcefully taking the life of another sentient being. We don't need to
do that.

>
>> You can live on a wholly veggie diet, you cannot live on meat alone.
>
>That's irrelevant, and false.

You're an idiot.

>
>>> the word need is strictly conditional.
>>
>> Keep wriggling.
>
>You are misappropriating your personal DESIRE to have us all live a
>particular way into a meaningless statement about "need". We don't NEED to
>do thousands of things we do, that does not mean we shouldn't do them.

You want to self harm, fine, go jump in a lake. Don't drag us down
with you.

>
>>>>>>>The only reason to give up meat all together is to feel smug and
>>>>>>>superior, a feeling that can only be maintained if "the great fight"
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>never actually won. That is why vegetarians come up with such lame
>>>>>>>ideas
>>>>>>>trying to persuade other people to make the same decision they did but
>>>>>>>for different reasons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What an idiotic idea. Since when has looking after ourselves, and the
>>>>>> planet been some warped ego trip?
>>>>>
>>>>>Man has always gone on warped ego trips, it's his nature.
>>>>
>>>> Strange world you live in then, when caring is an ego trip!
>>>
>>>Vegans bend caring into a character flaw.
>>
>> We still know caring is good. You're the warped kind who think its a
>> crime! Guilt does funny things to people I guess.
>
>You're projecting. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that they bang on people's
>doors and pester them about The Truth because they "care". The *real*
>"truth" is that like you they need to pester people to convince themselves
>that they care, and they need to convert others in order to keep convincing
>themselves that they're not misguided. Nobody thinks caring is bad, deciding
>that you have a unique insight on THE TRUTH is arrogant and boring.

You're an idiot.

If your weird needs inflict harm on the rest of the worlds
inhabitants, it's our business.

>
>>>>>> Really weird thoughts you're having.
>>>>>
>>>>>They only sound weird to you because you're on a warped ego trip.
>>>>
>>>> You cant seem to get round your head, some things in life are free.
>>>
>>>You can't seem to get it through your head, everything free is not good.
>>
>> The best things in life are. Try enjoying it for a change.
>
>Some of the worst things in life are free, like warped ego trips.

True, but then I don't suppose you can help yourself.
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