Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Melondy wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> Little Malice wrote:
>>>> One time on Usenet, Blinky the Shark > said:
>>>>
>>>>> I made this today, and I'd like an opinion or two from the Esteemed Pie
>>>>> Makers Of RFC (EPMORFC).
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.producepete.com/recipes/grapepie.html
>>>>>
>>>>> It tastes fine, but it seemed kinda runny. Now, I haven't made a pie in
>>>>> ages, so I adhered to the recipe. But note the *superscripted* "1" in
>>>>> the line for the water/cornstarch mixture. I wondered at the time if
>>>>> that was supposed to be part of a fraction - perhaps 1/2 - that got
>>>>> incompletely entered in the page source.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would, indeed, 1/2 cup of water seem a reasonable amount in this
>>>>> context, for that 3 tbsp of cornstarch?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>>> I'm not a pie maker, but I do use a cornstarch and water
>>>> mixture to thicken sauces. That being said, the above sounds
>>>> like a heck of a lot of water to me. I usually use two parts
>>>> cornstarch to three parts water (tablespoons, mostly).
>>> Following that instruction, the ratio I used was 3 to 16.
>>>
>>> If that superscripted "1" in the recipe was supposed to be "1/4", then
>>> that would work out to 3 to 4. That's pretty close to your nominal 2 to
>>> 3. I'll bet that's it; I'll try that next time.
>>>
>>>> I looked at a few other grape pie recipes via Google, and
>>>> none of them use cornstarch (although one calls for tapioca).
>>>> Maybe one of them would be better:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
>>> I looked at tons of them, too, after making that pie. I was surprised
>>> how many of them didn't even use grapes -- just grape juice. Anyway,
>>> call me stubborn, but I'd rather work this recipe out than move on at
>>> this point.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input.
>> I've got a great grape pie recipe..no water added. Very rich and thick.
>>
>> 5-6 cups of concord grapes
>> 3/4 - 1 cup sugar
>> 1 1/2 Tbs. tapioca
>>
>> You pinch each grape and pop out the pulp and seeds.SAVE the skins in a
>
> Not that committed to the project. That's one reason I liked the
> no-fiddling-with-the-grapes recipe I used.
>
>> large bowl. In a heavy bottomed pot, put the grape pulp in, bring to a
>> boil and simmer for 6-8 minutes. Tnen pour thru a colander or use a food
>> mill to remove the seeds. POur the juicey pulp over the skins and let
>
> No food mill.
>
> Wait...isn't this the second time you've separated the seeds?
>
>> sit for 4-6 hours. I even let it sit over night and make the pie in the
>> morning. Preheat oven to 425° . After the rest period, add the sugar
>> and the tapioca. Pour the grape mixture into a pie shell. Top with
>> another crust or you can make a lattice. BAke at 425° for 15 minutes.
>> Lower the temp to 350° and cook for 30 minutes. The crust should be
>> browning nicely and the juice will bubble up a little. Good idea to
>> place a cookie sheet or some foil under this pie because when it bubbles
>> over....it's messy!
>
> And takes two days.
>
> I'm sure it's great, though. Thanks, seriously.
>
> Mine ran over, too. I had it on a nice big pizza pan.
>
>> I got this recipe from someone who lives in Naples, New York, in Finger
>> Lakes wine country. They have a terrific grqpe festival there and have
>> pies galore.
>
> I was *just* exchanging posts in another group with someone who lives in
> that area, and who trades at this Naples shop:
>
> http://www.sweetiepies.com/
>
> They not only offer grape and other pies:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2z9vaa
>
> ...they also sell their fillings;
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2kj7kc
>
>

I've been there! Eaten there, too! Great pie. Bought the filling once
but just couldn't pay the price every time I got a craving so learned to
make my own. Around where I live the fillings sell for $15 but of course
no shipping involved.

So, if you don't want to fuss with the grapes too much, just follow the
recipe but don't add the water/cornstarch mixture. Just add tapioca with
the sugar, added to the warm mixture. Be sure to boil it awhile. I bet
it will taste more concentrated without the water. At the very least it
should be added grape juice and not water.

Melondy