> >>
> >> Obviously Kathleen does *not* live in Western Washington.
> >> We'd need a different technique here.
> >>
> >
> >Are you saying that you're stuck where the sun don't shine?
>
> That's about right. Especially it don't shine in November. It's--as
> I type--just past midnight, Nov 22nd, and yesterday we set a new
> record for wettest single month ever. In Seattle, anyway.
>

I'm on the southeastern edge of Lake Michigan and as soon as it cools
off for winter...the real cold stuff...we won't see the sun. Typically
that's starting in a couple weeks and lasting until February, right
along the lake. We get snow instead of rain. Sometimes lots of snow.
This has been a very wet second half of the year here as well.

-John O