"Hoss" > wrote in message
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> I have what I believe is a row of Concord growing in my yard, but not
> 100% certain. They are bright purple and now if I crush one, it has 4
> stones buried within green fruit. It is still very tart and I do NOT
> get a red stain on the fingers (yet?) when I crush the skins in the
> hand. I don't have a picture of these, but can compare if someone can
> help!
>
> By the way, I am in the Erie, PA area, but south of I-90 where there
> are far fewer grapes than North of I-90, where the welch's concords
> grow en masse.
>
> Now, riding down the road a couple days ago, I saw some grapes growing
> high up on an old wild apple tree, and I am trying to figure out what
> they may be. The grapes are beautiful in size and color, the ones in
> this picture are approximately the same size diameter as a dime or
> penny. When squeezed, the fruit is white (clear) and also has four
> stones. The taste is very sweet, maybe like a concord grape, but
> doesn't taste like welch's or like grape jelly. When I squeeze these
> skins which are darker, I'd label as black, they do indeed leave a red
> stain on the fingers. I would also say they have a bit of tannin, but
> not heavy with it, at least with my small taste.
>
> Here are the links to the pics (about 330K each). I have one of a
> medium cluster, and one of a leaf with cluster in the background.
>
>
> http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8...dsweet1vq0.jpg
>
>
> http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8...dsweet2ry0.jpg
>
>
> Here I have a picture of what I just generically call "wild grapes".
> These are much smaller, about the size of a pencil eraser, dark
> purple, very little pulp, very bitter, and stain the hands purple
> immediately, they're also full of seeds. I made some wine of these
> last year, needed to make like a fruit wine with lots of water and
> sugar. Surprisingly it isn't bad, but I'll know more in a year, any
> help with these would be appreciated as well. These are clearly
> different from the ones above.
>
> http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4264/wildsourfd2.jpg
>
> many thanks in advance
>
> Greg, Erie, PA

Greg, you might try the Penn State Ag Extension office. Call first,
perhaps they can recommend someone to identify the variety. I understand
that grape varieties can be identified by the leaf's lobes, veins, teeth,
etc. Otherwise, take a leaf, some ripe fruit and an understanding of the
vines' growth habits with you when you ask someone.
The Moorheads at PIWC can probably tell you what they are. Their "about
us" web page has this:
<snip>
" E-MAIL - send us your questions or comments."
</snip>
hth

Tom