On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:53:18 -0400, "C. James Strutz"
> wrote:


>> >Yes, it's a problem, even if you mistakenly believe that only humans
>> >think. How could anyone who claims to have humanity not be disgusted
>> >by veal crates, gestation cages, or discarding half-dead animals in
>> >piles?
>>
>> Sue have you ever interacted with a cow?
>
>You need only interact with common pets to know that animals have instincts,
>intellect, emotion, and can feel pain. I think that animals also have souls.
>
Instinct and emotions are not thinking. You would have to give your
definition of intellect , so that I could respond.

>> And what is your proof that not only humans have independent thought.?
>
>You are asking her to prove something that she never claimed. It makes it
>look as though you're propping up your beliefs by discrediting her.
>
If you would read her statement closely, "if you mistakenly believe
that only humans think" , you will see that she is making that claim.
Pan Ohco