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On 13 Sep 2006 12:26:21 -0700, wrote:

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wrote:
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>> From: diderot >
>> Subject: dead-frog numbers [was: faq collateral included deaths in organic rice production]
>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 02:28:51 EDT
>> Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animal s,rec.food.veg
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>> > frlpwr wrote:
>> >
>> > > > Maybe you would like to explain why, when I counter claims of feral
>> > > > cat depradation with observations gathered over twelve+ years of
>> > > > daily interaction with feral cats, the members of the peanut gallery
>> > > > boo, hiss and throw rotten tomatoes?
>>
>> actually, feral, your thrown-away cat dissertation(s) was the catalyst
>> (intended) for this faq. it is no secret i think you have the reasoning
>> ability of a juvenile turnip, and your philosophy is dumber still, but:
>> you are consistent, your philosophy is coherent if silly, and what you
>> wrote had the ring of truth - you knew your subject and it was pretty
>> obvious you were not cooking the books with your observations and
>> anecdotes.
>>
>Unlike you and your "green waterfall" evidence, I did not rely on
>anecdotes alone to convince anyone of my claim that cat predation plays
>a very minor role in the decimation of avian populations.

How many cats are you talking about?

>I have
>repeated posted the findings of global studies on the stomach contents
>of feral cats, (US: Nillson, Sperry, McMurray. New Zealand: Hubbs,
>Conan. Australia: Brunner. Europe: Leyerhaussen. Pac. Islds: Van
>Aarke. Africa: App. and others). These studies showed that birds
>constitue less than 8% of feral cats' diets. Further, the average is
>skewed by study results from Pacific Islands where there are no rodent
>populations and cats, by necessity, must hone their bird catching
>skills or die.

Why not eliminate them, like you "aras" want to do with domestic
cats, dogs, cows, pigs, horses, sheep, turkeys, goats...?

>As for your opinion of my philosophy, I think it's fair to let others
>here know that you first appeared in this newsgroup as a trophy hunter,
>bragging about the thrill of killing African big game on safari. Your
>description of death in the rice fields was meant to force vegans to
>share in the bloodletting that you so clearly enjoy.

The vegan denial of their contribution to cds in rice production or
any other is FAR more contemptible than diderot bragging about
something he honestly did and is proud of.