<dh@.> wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 16:23:11 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
>
> ><dh@.> wrote in message ...
> >> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:37:52 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
> >>
> >> ><dh@.> wrote in message ...
> >> >> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:54:22 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
> >> ><..>
> >> >> >A few might hop in from the field margins.. same as they can hop out.
> >> >>
> >> >> LOL. I mean: Why would they be in "the field margins", and how
> >> >> would they get there?
> >> >
> >> >Why wouldn't they? They like humid areas with still shallow pools.
> >> >Margins left untouched would provide permanent habitat for frogs.
> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> yes, but diderot led me to believe that most of them were
> >> >> >> >> >> >> tree frogs who could survive in the stalks until the harverster came
> >> >> >> >> >> >> along.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Where did all these frogs come from, after supposedly being
> >> >> >> >> >> >slaughtered year in, year out?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> diderot was nice enough to exchange some emails with me,
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >I bet! - you're a ready sucker,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> LOL! That coming from someone who believes there are
> >> >> >> >> superior beings living in the center of the Earth is pretty
> >> >> >> >> damn funny.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I've plenty of reason to believe that.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Like what?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I've posted a link to a well-researched site before, just for you.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't believe you, but would like to see you try.
> >> >
> >> >I'm not giving it to you again.
> >>
> >> You lied to begin with, and are now desperately though pathetically
> >> trying to support your lying.
> >
> >Unlike you, I don't lie.
>
> There are no decent sites about the Inner Earth fantasy.

Really? What research have you done on the subject?

If your search "grass fed cow milk Inner Earth Beings kill" is
any indication, you really need to work on your search strings.

> >> >> >> >You dis-believe without reason.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have good reason. If it were true, I have good reason to believe
> >> >> >> people in general would have learned about it because research
> >> >> >> teams would have found the entrances, gone in, studied it, made
> >> >> >> videos, and made money by presenting what they learned to the
> >> >> >> public like they do with other things of interest.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >That has happened.
> >> >>
> >> >> You're the only person I've ever known of to think so. Do you
> >> >> always believe that btw, or do you sometimes think they don't
> >> >> exist like you sometimes think there are no frogs in rice fields?
> >> >
> >> >You mean, like you believe in a biblical plague of frogs in rice fields.
> >>
> >> That's because of a number of people who have reported them,
> >
> >In Texas? Show us.

Helloooooo....

> >> plus having seen many frogs in different environments similar to
> >> rice fields.
> >
> >Areas that are allowed to dry, and harvested twice a year?
>
> Which harvest would have less frogs? Explain the difference
> between the two.

The one allowed to dry. One supports frogs, the other doesn't.

> >> The only thing I've seen trying to oppose the occurrence
> >> is you who have no clue wtf you're trying to talk about, and one or
> >> two other "aras".
> >
> >Let's see your documentation of hundreds of thousands in Texas rice fields.
>
> 10,000 killed on a road in Florida one night certainly suggests
> it's more than likely. In opposition to it, all we have is an "ara" from
> a completely different country and environment, who can't imagine
> how it could be true.

Frogs migrate - a fact that seems to have escaped you in the past.

Roads have lots of cars speeding along them.. Give it up, david.

> >> >There are many written accounts by explorers, researchers and others.
> >>
> >> No there are not.
> >
> >Yes, there are.
>
> They most likely never even left the opium den.

diderot probably had his vision of "green waterfalls" in texan rice fields there.

> >> >No video that I'm aware of, sorry, but I did link to an unusual photo.
> >>
> >> Nope.
> >
> >More than once.
>
> LOL! I mean: Do it "again"...lol...but there is no such thing, so
> you can't.

I could, but I choose not to.

> >> . . .
> >> >> You emphatically stated that you "don't think that 'they' are there!"
> >> >> Now you're amusingly trying to pretend differently.
> >> >
> >> >'they', as in the hundreds of thousands alleged - "the green waterfall".
> >> >
> >> >> >Not the hundreds of thousands you claim.
> >> >>
> >> >> How many? How could you possibly have any clue? Present some
> >> >> info from a reliable source to back up your absurd sounding claim.
> >> >
> >> >I have backed up logical common sense
> >>
> >> Maybe, but not about this topic.
> >
> >About this topic.
> >
> >> >with an email from a bona fide
> >> >organic rice-farmer. -You- have yet to support your fantastical claim.
> >>
> >> The email you presented turned out to back up diderot's claim.
> >
> >Quote?

Straight away I can see that this is not from Lundberg's email.
> __________________________________________________ _______
> A collection of articles by scientists who are experts in
> their field, AMPHIBIANS AND REPTILES: STATUS AND CONSERVATION
> IN FLORIDA speaks openly of "persecution" and "extirpation,"
> of some reptiles, particularly Box Turtles, Gopher Tortoises
> and Common Kingsnakes. Scientific abbreviations like "DOR"
> stand for "Dead on Road," and mean the myriad squashings of
> frogs, lizards, turtles and snakes beneath our chariot wheels.
> Some roads, like U.S. 441 across Payne's Prairie in Alachua
> County, and the Tamiami Trail that runs across Florida from
> Miami to Tampa, are virtual abattoirs, greased with the gory
> little bodies of "anurans," as frogs and toads are called
> scientifically. "On Aug. 5, 1991 I stopped counting after
> 10,000," biologist Jim Weimer said in a 1996 interview,
> describing a single night on U.S. 441 across Payne's Prairie.
> "This was just one night. On May 2, 1991, there were over
> 5,000 Southern Leopard Frogs killed."
>
> http://www.cnah.org/news.asp

No mention of rice fields there. Why aren't there?


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> >> >> >> >> You can't answer that one. At "best" all you can do is hurl insults
> >> >> >> >> and sulk away from it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You haven't answered the question.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Which one?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >How all 'these' frogs got there in the first place. diderot lied to you.
> >> >>
> >> >> The only thing to suggest that diderot lied is YOU, and you're insane.
> >> >> YOU need to explain why frogs and tadpoles could not get into rice
> >> >> fields when they are flooded with water from rives and/or creeks.
> >> >
> >> >I have explained. Rivers and creeks - deep moving bodies of water - aren't
> >> >teeming with frogs! Not even in Texas. Frogs live in still, shallow pools.
> >>
> >> You just can't comprehend the fact that there are still pools in rivers and
> >> creeks, and that they exist behind closed flood gates.
> >
> >And just there, there are hundreds of thousands of frogs, spawn and tadpoles?
> >Ridiculous. What happened to your claim that they come from "upstream"?
> >
> >> >> >> >> >And if his claims were true, a
> >> >> >> >> >seasonal wholesale slaughter of frogs would be well-documented.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Who would document it? Why?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Amphibian watchers, .. agricultural sites, .. ecological sites..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So you're saying there are no cds involved with any crop production,
> >> >> >> and if there were it would be well documented and posted on
> >> >> >> agricultural and ecological sites? Or are you trying to get us to believe
> >> >> >> that's only true in the case of rice for some reason(s)?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Amphibians are in serious trouble, so it would be well-documented.
> >> >> >And yes, - if the mass carnage you'd like us to believe happens in
> >> >> >crop production was a fact, that too would be well-documented.
> >> >>
> >> >> So you're saying that people should give no thought to cds involved
> >> >> with any type of crop production? How about wood and paper production?
> >> >> Construction of roads and building? Mining operations? Production of
> >> >> electricity?
> >> >
> >> >Yes, it is documented, where or when it occurs.
> >>
> >> Let's see some evidence of that.
> >
> >Results 1 - 10 of about 819,000 for pesticides bird kill.
> >
> >Results 1 - 10 of about 1,590,000 for pesticides fish kill.
>
> Results 1 - 10 of about 1,260,000 for rice frog kill. Done.

Nope. Not one link on page 1 is even remotely relevant.

We're looking for "green waterfalls" of frogs in organic Texan
rice fields. So far, you cannot tell us where these alleged frogs
come from, nor can you provide any supporting evidence for
they're presence in the alleged numbers, or of a frog massacre.

> Results 1 - 10 of about 829,000 for rice whale kill.
> Results 1 - 10 of about 217,000 for vegetables penguin kill.

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