"Rupert" > wrote in message
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>
> rick wrote:
>> "Rupert" > wrote in message
>> ps.com...
>>
>>
>> >>
>> >> The morally relevant difference lies in the essential
>> >> difference between
>> >> humans and the animal species we use as food, or kill in
>> >> crop
>> >> fields, or
>> >> what-have-you.
>> >>
>> >
>> > You can identify some differences which hold between most
>> > humans and
>> > most nonhumans and claim that they are morally relevant, but
>> > there will
>> > always be some humans who don't have these differences from
>> > nonhuman
>> > animals.
>> =====================
>> But the main difference still remains. Within each person is
>> the
>> seed of what being human is.
>> No such seed exists in ANY animal.
>
> I don't know what "the seed of being human" is. It's just empty
> hand-waving.
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No, it's not. Tell me the other animals that have the capacity
to be morally aware as a person does.
You can't, plain and simple, just like your mind...


There is no property which all humans have in common and
> all nonhumans lack, except certain genetic characteristics,
> which
> cannot be plausibly held to be morally relevant.
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LOL Morally to whom, fool? All morals are a human concept.
Again, tell me the other animals that will abide, defend or even
recognize these 'morals,' killer.


>
>> The person you claim now
>> doesn't have the differences from animals has the potential to
>> achieve those differences. No matter how much hand-waving,
>> and
>> how many strawmen you prop up, NO animals will ever achive the
>> difference. Again, your ignorance and stupidity blind you to
>> reality.
>
> It's quite funny to see you talking about "ignorance and
> stupidity".
> The philosophical community has been debating this issue for
> the last
> thirty years and everyone agrees that there is a serious
> problem with
> defending speciesism. I really don't think you are competent to
> judge
> all these professional philosophers to be ignorant and stupid.
> Why
> don't you try and publish the argument you just came up with,
> see how
> you go. If you really think you can defend speciesism I'm sure
> everyone
> would be very excited to hear about it.
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Anything excites you that doesn't fit into your brainwashing,
fool.
Again, tell me the animals that have within them the capacity of
being human.
ALL people have that capacity. It may not exist because of
illness or injury, but it is still there.
A 'cure' could be found, making them a fully aware human. No
such 'cure' for animals to become human is ever going to be
there. The ignorant and stupid I'm arguing with here is you and
karen, fool. You two are the top of the class in both...