On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:31:20 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:

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>"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:14:02 -0500, Pan Ohco > wrote:
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>> >On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:22:29 GMT, "Marcelino"
>> > wrote:
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>> >
>> >>Please examine what we do to animals on factory farms and in
>> >>slaughterhouses, denying animals everything that is natural to them
>> >
>> >What we do to animals is to restrict their movements. If they were
>> >thinking beings that might be a problem. But they are not. Other then
>> >that the human feed & water them and keep them alive longer then if
>> >they had been in the wild.
>>
>> Yes, it's a problem, even if you mistakenly believe that only humans
>> think. How could anyone who claims to have humanity not be disgusted
>> by veal crates, gestation cages, or discarding half-dead animals in
>> piles?
>>

>Those conditions are hardly the standard, with the possible exception of the
>veal, which I wouldn't eat on a bet.

No one said they were "standard."

>The poster was, I believe, referring to reputable farms that are run
>properly.

No, the poster didn't qualify the comment at all.

>I come from a long line of farmers, none of which own veal crates, or
>gestation cages...and they certainly don't discard half dead animals in
>piles.

No one said your family does.

>Of course there are going to be people who are callous and cruel in the
>farming industry....just as there are in every walk of life. That doesn't
>mean the whole industry is bad, just those people.

So what do you do about the callous and cruel ones? Just shrug your
shoulders?

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!