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Default Question for Karen Winter, who used to post at 'rat' and now posts as <bleagh> 'glorfindel'

Leif Erikson wrote:
> Karen Winter, who used to post at 'rat' and now posts
> as <bleagh> 'glorfindel', deliberately misrepresented:
> > chico chupacabra wrote:
> >
> >> pearl wrote:

> >
> >
> >>> You approve of people 'diddling' large animals.

> >
> >
> >> I approve of agriculture;

> >
> >
> > You approve of people "diddling" animals

>
> No. There's no sexual gratification dimension to
> artificial insemination.


There was also no sexual gratification for Glorfindel when she allowed
the bird to do its thing. She only said that she thought it was sweet
that the bird was getting some enjoyment in its difficult life. Since
she did not get sexual gratification, and since the cattle ranchers
who, um, 'milk' the sperm from the bulls do not get gratification, they
are on the same moral level. Possibly Glorfindel's morals are even
better than the ranchers. Her motive was for the bird to be happy, and
their motive was to sell the sperm for money and then impregnate the
females without regard to letting the animals do it their own way.

> >> I disapprove of humans getting their jollies by sexually abusing animals

> >
> >
> > Which does not include me.

>
> It *does* include you, along with your cockatiel.


At no point did Glorfindel indicate that she got jollies from it, at
least not in the sexual meaning that you are implying.