chico chupacabra wrote:
> Karen Winter, schismatic Episcopalian (self-described "anglo catholic")
> from Santa Fe who has long and openly endorsed pedophilia and
> bestiality, recently admitted to being personally involved in "regular"
> sexual contact with an animal:
>
> I lived with a cockatiel who regularly masturbated on my hand.
> -- Karen "Glorfindel" Winter, 08/08/06
> alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.food.vegan, talk.politics.animals
> http://tinyurl.com/kcq27

BTW, she defended this even when taken to task by other animal rights
activists and bragged about how the poor bird liked her more than he
liked other birds:

...I think we made his last years as happy as was possible for
him... If he wanted to use my hand as a sex toy, I wasn't going
to forbid him.
http://tinyurl.com/p4vrc

I thought it was rather sweet, in fact. He certainly was a
happier bird with me than with the other 'tiels.
http://tinyurl.com/rvyua

Is this consistent with "anglo catholicism"? Or is it just pretty
@&*#$*% weird to y'all, too?

> For some reason, she has long attempted to bait me and turn this into a
> religious discussion rather than one of normative ethics. So I'm
> reluctantly taking her bait and cross-posting to ARCE to get the
> sentiment of other "anglo catholics" and Episcopalians.
>
> Is this kind of behavior between man and beast common or accepted in
> your congregation? Or, even with all the schism (of which Karen is an
> active and eager radical participant) and the sexual libertines now in
> power, is buggery still frowned upon in the pews?
>
> I know for some of you the Bible isn't particularly important -- just a
> five-pound hurdle on the way to doing whatever you see as right in your
> own eyes, which you confuse as the work of the Holy Ghost. But St Paul
> did write:
>
> Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the
> body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own
> body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the
> Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are
> not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify
> God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.
> -- I Corinthians 6:18-20
>
> Is it the sentiment among Episcopalians that sex with small animals is
> included in this "sexual immorality" which St Paul tells the church in
> Corinth to flee? Or is this kind of behavior okay now since the Holy
> Spirit has obviated most of the Pauline Epistles? Would your parish
> object if she brought one of her little "friends" with her to church the
> same way she has her FAS-defective ******* partner, and maybe even got
> its jollies with her during, say, vespers? Or is it all perfectly
> reasonable for "anglo catholics" to "glorify God" in their bodies and
> spirits by diddling with critters?
>
> Discuss.