On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:56:46 -0700, "Richard Miller" > wrote:

>You find out how many calories your suppose to eat to maintain your desired
>weight. Then you subtract 20% from that total and now you how your calorie
>intake for good health as long as you keep a healthy diet. My question is,
>from strictly a health point. What's wrong with eating 3 oz. of fish or
>chicken per day?

Nothing. It's probably good for you.

>Of course you don't eat the skin off of the chicken and you
>don't deep fry the fish. I'm just trying to learn because I'm a somewhat a
>newbie. I also know it is 99% impossible to actually maintain a 100% vegan
>diet for an American.

And it's completely impossible not to contribute to things
containing animal ingredients.

>I'm just trying to use common since. Please no hard
>core criticism, I'm just trying to educate myself.

Veganism isn't about health. People don't pretend to avoid
all things containing animal ingredients simply for their health.
People only choose veganism for supposedly ethical reasons,
not health reasons. If you're just worried about your health
there's certainly no reason for you to try to be vegan or even
pretend to be. In fact, there's no reason at all for you to try or
pretend to be any sort of vegetarian at all, much less vegan.
· Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of
wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of
buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.
What they try to avoid are products which provide life
(and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have
to avoid the following items containing animal by-products
in order to be successful:

Tires, Paper, Upholstery, Floor waxes, Glass, Water
Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer, Antifreeze, Ceramics, Insecticides,
Insulation, Linoleum, Plastic, Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen,
Heparin, Insulin, Solvents, Biodegradable Detergents, Herbicides,
Gelatin Capsules, Adhesive Tape, Laminated Wood Products,
Plywood, Paneling, Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane
Wrap and Tape, Abrasives, Steel Ball Bearings

The meat industry provides life for the animals that it
slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it
as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for
their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume
animal products from animals they think are raised in decent
ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the
future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for
livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious
consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by
being vegan.
From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well
over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people
get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is
likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings
derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products
contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and
better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. ·