JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone use any of these products?
> >> >
> >> > http://www.greenhome.com/products/ho...ish_detergent/
> >> >
> >> > I have to wash my milk jar once a week in a environmental dishwashing
> >> > soap, whether it be dishwasher or dish pan. Does anyone have any
> >> > suggestions of any that might be in a regular grocery store that you
> >> > have
> >> > used?
> >> > thanks so much.
> >> > Dee Dee
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what a milk jar is, or who says you have to wash it any
> >> particular way. But, no matter. Dish liquids - the kind you use for
> >> washing
> >> by hand, are pretty much all phosphate free and biodegradable (two
> >> SEPARATE
> >> issues). Take a look at Dawn "original", if you want a product that's
> >> tough
> >> enough to clean ancient oil crud off a car engine, and has no stupid
> >> perfumes or ingredients to make your hands softer. The label says "no
> >> phosphates, contains biodegradable surfactants".
> >>
> >> I don't use liquids in my dishwasher - I use tablets, so I can't advise
> >> you
> >> on that. You'll have to read some labels. But, while it WAS very
> >> important
> >> years ago to cut back on the use of phosphate-laden products in homes,
> >> that's pretty much happened because so many laundry products are free of
> >> the
> >> chemical now. What's left is very minor by comparison.
> >>
> >> Save your money. According to every consumer-oriented thing I've read
> >> over
> >> the past 10-15 years, "green" products are often no better than what's in
> >> the stores.
> >
> > You can also cut way down on the volume of home cleaning products used
> > by installing a water softener... the savings on cleaning products will
> > more than pay for the water softener twice over... not to mention time
> > and effort saved from not having to do so much scrubbing of soap scum
> > and mineral deposits. I use tablets in my dishwasher too, but I cut
> > them in half... I use half the laundry soap too.. even shapoo goes more
> > than twice as far. I don't use bar soap, I prefer soft-soap/bath
> > gel... bar soap is wasteful. You gals will love showering with
> > softened water and bath gel... your skin will feel so slippery you
> > won't be able to stop touching yourself! LOL
> >
> > Sheldon
> >
>
> Bar soap wasteful? Maybe sorta kinda. If you wanted to be picky when
> comparing it to the gel, you could say that the gel comes in a plastic
> bottle, which may appear to be recyclable, but in fact, is not. And, this is
> for business reasons: Many municipalities are having difficulty finding
> buyers for the sheer volume of plastic they collect. So, the stuff just sits
> around.

Ridiculous... were that true soft drinks and bottle water would be
banned... you're probably the biggest offender, a fast food addict like
you... and liquid soap bottles are no problem, so few of yoose euros
and hillybillys bathe.

You're buying incorrectly... once you decide on which liquid/gel soaps
you like buy in bulk containers and refil the dispensers. Bar soap is
very wasteful, most ends up going down the drain, unused.... yeah, my
mother taught me all the tricks; open each bar as soon as you can to
let it dry out so it won't melt so fast, and save the slivers to squish
together... what a crock, just a big mess and wastes time for nothing,
still most bar soap just slides down the drain.

Liquid dispensed soaps are sanitary, no embedded pubic hairs, no
messy/gooey soap dishes to contend with and the pump dispensers can be
reused over and over for years and years. And dispensed soaps are far
more economical than bar soap... a very little is all that's needed, a
squirt the size of a dime is plenty to wash hands... a squirt the size
of a quarter on a wash cloth is plenty for a shower. I don't like
those squeeze bottle containers for shower gels either, they promote
using too much product... I recommend squeezing the shower gel into a
plastic pump bottle. All the liquid/gel cleaning products are readily
available in bulk, if not in your local stupidmarket then buy them on
line, greater assortment and much better prices. Anyone with a lot of
kids (more than one) should never use bar soap.

Sheldon