On Thu 25 May 2006 09:37:16a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
Randall?

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> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
> 28.19...
>> On Thu 25 May 2006 08:23:10a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
>> Randall?
>>
>>>
>>> "jacqui{JB}" > wrote in message
>>> . dk...
>>>> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I'm considering buying the book, The Ultimate Ice
>>>>> Cream Book by Bruce Weinstein (ISBN 0-688-16149-9)
>>>>> as I checked it out from the library and it looks more
>>>>> 'standard' to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you made anything from it, and what is the one that you like or
>>>>> recommend?
>>>>
>>>> I made one of the chocolate ice creams a couple of years ago, which
>>>> was when I discovered that my ice cream maker wasn't working anymore.
>>>> The mixture was great, even though it never got properly frozen.
>>>> I haven't tried anything else, 'cause I'm still debating the relative
>>>> merits of replacement machines. The most commonly available machines
>>>> here have either a bowl which has to be kept in the freezer or a
>>>> tablet which sits in the bottom of the bowl which needs to go into
>>>> the freezer before it can be used -- neither of which have a
>>>> particularly large capacity, perhaps a quart. Another option is to
>>>> spring the big bucks for a self-contained unit, but the capacity in
>>>> those is ridiculously small -- about a pint -- which makes the output
>>>> disproportionately expensive.
>>>>
>>>> I was looking at White Mountain ice cream freezers this morning --
>>>> http://www.brm-icecream.com/index.htm -- and wondering if I could get
>>>> my mom in California to accept delivery and then forward it on to me
>>>> here in DK. A
>>>> four-quart, electric machine would be just about right. I have a
>>>> step-down converter to handle the voltage issues, so I'd just have to
>>>> come up with a source for ice (which might also be a problem, since
>>>> I've never seen ice in bags here ...).
>>>>
>>>> Trials and tribulations of living in a "furrin" place, I tell you.
>>>> I'm only slightly bitter.
>>>>
>>>> But I ramble. Yes, I recommend the Ultimate Ice Cream Book. Many of
>>>> the recipes sound really good. And I'm a big fan of the Ben &
>>>> Jerry's book, too.
>>>>
>>>> -j
>>>>
>>> I have a new Cuisinart ice cream maker, but will bring it out this
>>> summer to begin to make a few ice creams, as I will have available
>>> proper cream/milk for it (unpasteurized). I will probably buy the
>>> Ultimate book, maybe this week.
>>> I had the White Mountain years ago. For some reason I hated spending
>>> time getting the salt ready, buying it, all that money for salt,
>>> etc., then I bought the Donvier, which I hated. Actually I'm not
>>> expecting anything out of the Cuisinart that I didn't get from the
>>> Donvier except with the Donvier I had to hand-crank it.
>>> All the caveats of making ice cream, to me, are a bore. Eventually
>>> I'll probably break down and spend the big bucks for a good ice cream
>>> maker if the new cream/milk works out for us. I don't expect to do
>>> anything too soon tho.
>>> Thanks for the chat.
>>> PS, I think the White Mountain price is a little high priced. I think
>>> the wooden (or is it plastic now) bucket is for nostalgic reasons;
>>> makes you think you're in Vermont? I think this thing could be priced
>>> more realistically at $89-99, but that's just me; and you'd probably
>>> never find it. By the time you pay shipping a couple of times, you're
>>> talking money. Dee Dee
>>
>> I have a White Mountain w/motor that I rarely use because it's too
>> large for my needs (6 qts). I also have a Simac Il Gelataio with
>> compressor that makes 1-1/2 qts. It makes perfect ice cream quickly
>> and in the right quantity for us. I tried one of the units where you
>> freeze the cyliner, but absolutely hated it. Even though I kept the
>> cylinder in my deep freeze at -10 degrees, the damned thing never
>> froze the ice cream as firmly as I wanted.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
>
>
> Yeah, I think I'm going to hate my Cuisinart (cylinder type, too). It's
> wishful thinking that this is going to work.

Mebbe not. I'm sure some are better than others.

> But I've read that even with the units similar to your Simac, (is there
> a generic name for them?) that once the ice cream is finished and the
> unit turns off, that you do have to pack it in a container and let it
> sit inside the freezer for a couple of hours to firm up. Unless you
> want soft-serve. True/false?

True and false. One can remove the paddle and pack down the ice cream,
leaving it in the machine for a period of time to further firm up -or-
scoop it into a container and put in the freezer for like time. However,
the machine does make a much firmer product than the cylinder type.
Regardless of method, ice cream improves in both flavor and texture if
allowed to "mellow" a while after churning.

Even in the old fashioned style of bucket freezers, traditionally the
dasher was removed, the ice cream packed down and covered, the the freezer
was repacked with ice and salt to allow the ice cream to mellow. As a kid
I remember this as an interminable wait for that delicious first bowl. :-)

Commercially, all ice creams (even the best of them) are put into their
containers in a semi-solid state, then into a super cold freezer.

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
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