<dh@.> wrote
> "Dutch" > wrote:

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>>>>You're suggesting that people help animals by consuming animal products
>>>>instead of being vegan, right?
>>>
>>> By consuming products which they feel contribute to lives of positive
>>> value for farm animals.
>>
>>What if they feel that no animal products do that to their satisfaction?
>
> Then they can't deliberately contribute to anything good for farm
> animals,
> even though other people can.

That's not true, many vegetarians deliberately contribute time and money
towards promoting good for farm animals.

>>Wouldn't it then be more ethical of them to be vegans? Would they not be
>>more consistent with their ideals than say people who claim to care about
>>animals, then consume animal products with little regard for the value of
>>the animals' lives?
>
> I'll say that I don't think any less of people who just admit that they
> don't care,

That's not what I asked. I said people who "claim to care about animals", as
many people do, yet simply consume animal products with no regard for the
animals. That seems hypocritical.

> than I do of people who want to claim some credit for supporting
> the rights of animals they would prevent from ever existing.

Where's the harm in preventing livestock from ever existing?