<dh@.> wrote in message ...
> On Tue, 9 May 2006 21:35:14 -0700, "Dutch" > wrote:
>
>>
>><dh@.> wrote in message ...
>>> On Mon, 8 May 2006 23:40:32 -0700, "Isabeau" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"nyx" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>>> These people only know what bits and pieces they
>>>>> read, and then you must be careful of the agenda's from who wrote
>>>>> them.
>>>>> It is by testimonials like yours (and my own experience) by which I
>>>>> am
>>>>> a beleiver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I understand exactly what you are saying I was actually expecting the
>>>>same.
>>>>Positive like minded people interested in helping each other and sharing
>>>>information on veganism, health, food and common interests.
>>>
>>> I've got you all beat :-) Before I got involved, I thought that
>>> people
>>> would be discussing ways to contribute to better lives for livestock
>>> with their lifestyle, and other things that would actually help animals.
>>> What a hoot that is! Instead I've spent the past seven years (or
>>> whatever) having people *oppose* the suggestion any way they
>>> can, quite often lying about me and what I'm suggesting.
>>
>>You're suggesting that people help animals by consuming animal products
>>instead of being vegan, right?
>
> By consuming products which they feel contribute to lives of positive
> value for farm animals.

What if they feel that no animal products do that to their satisfaction?
Wouldn't it then be more ethical of them to be vegans? Would they not be
more consistent with their ideals than say people who claim to care about
animals, then consume animal products with little regard for the value of
the animals' lives?


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