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>> Eh? Where did the term 'murder' come from? One cannot murder
>> animals. We can, and do, kill them. But murder is not what
>> takes place.
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> I'm sorry. You did not use the word murder. I should have gone
> back and read more carefully.
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>> Why? At least eating a steak is a survival need. Killing
>> animals for usenet entertainment is not.
>> So, you then subsitute that steak with a tofu roast. How many
>> animals died from the plowing, spraying, seeding, and
>> harvesting those beans into something you can eat? The beef I
>> eat produces 100s of meals with just the one death.
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> Eating a steak is not a survival need. Eating is a survival
> need. Even if one cow produced 100s of meals, the cow ate 5-7
> lbs of grain per pound of beef. The plowing, spraying,
> seeding, and harvesting applies to those also.
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Try reading again. The beef I eat does is not fed ANY grains or
crops. Thanks for proving once again the closed-minded mantra of
usenet vegans.


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> What are you defining as animal? Certainly not insects. Mice?
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I never include bugs, but if mice are not animals, then why all
the fake concern about them when used in labs?


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>> No. Abstaining from meat in no way automatically means you
>> are doing 'better' than eating any type of meat-included diet.
>> Have you even bothered to compare the foods you eat with each
>> other? I doubt it. No vegan here on usenet has even thought
>> of it because the religion has told you that all you need do
>> is avoid meats.
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> I don't understand how comparing my diet to other vegans (I am
> not vegan by the way) would affect anything. Why would it
> matter what they ate?
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Again, try reading for comprhension. vegans should compare the
foods they eat. Not to other vegans, but between foods. What
crops cause more/less death and suffering? Rice? potatoes?
brocolli? bananas? vegans don't know, and more importantly,
they don't care! All they want is to spew and rant about what
they think others are doing. If they want to have an impact,
they should first start with what THEY eat.


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> The point is, no matter how you look at it, sticking to a vegan
> diet does less harm than eating beef or other farm animal.
> Please tell me why this is not true.
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Becuase all the crops you eat are causing massive deaths and
suffering to animals. tell me how much collateral death is
associated with game meats. As long as there is an exapmle, the
automatic gains vegans claims are just a delusion.


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> Also, please explain what animals I am killing by posting on
> Usenet and how I am contributing to their deaths by posting
> here.
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Lookup power generation/distribution and communications. Study
the Hudson River estuary. It's estimated that the 3 power plants
there kill 3 billion fish. That's just 3 power generators out of
13000+ in the US. Estimates range from 3 to 8% of power used by
the internet. Millions upon millions of birds are kill by towers
every year. Learn some facts about your entire lifestyle. Diet
has a small impact overall.





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