Sometimes I can drink and party all night. Then there is the rare time when
a glass of wine totally whacks me for a short while. Inevitably someone will
say "How can you be drunk on a glass of wine?" If I had an answer I probably
would have abstained in the first place. Maybe I am on the brink of a flu,
who knows? In the same light, maybe I could take Ambien safely for years
until it blindsides me too and I wake up in the lake.

How can you argue and judge another person's subjective experiences? Other
than a company rep, who the hell WOULD argue in defense of a chemical that
is in scientific dispute over another person's cautionary personal tale? So
a poster didn't murder his/her family, they only got up and cooked bacon and
eggs (a real account from a documentary I saw) without consciousness. The
murderer is not likely to be posting about it here. The cooker is freaked
out over it.

Manufacturers might say a bad effect only happens to one in a thousand.
Well, who do you think is going to post a warning, the 999 who weren't hurt?
It will be the extremely important one whose life may have been in jeopardy.
Talk about a minority POV, how much support are they going to get?

Other than for being OT, I can't figure why so many people are often so down
on the messenger(s) around here. It is obvious that often there is such a
reaction to the subject that it seems like the arguer has barely read the
OP. The weird part is that when they pounce it is usually rife with
extrapolated projection-based judgements like " ...but then I (implied:
unlike you) am not a walking pharmacy...I only take (long list of wholistic
flavored-waters) and a spritz of something that makes me sound politically
correct and all sweet but you not; along with the Ambien I take only when I
sorely need it because I am special." And "Without legal papers to support
it your experience does not matter."

Lefty

Life is for learning




"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Knit Chic wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> maureeng7eh wrote:
> >>> A few years ago, a man in eastern Canada killed his mother-in-law,
> >>> in another town from where he lived.....all the while under the
> >>> influence of Halcion (sleeping drug)
> >>>
> >>> He had absolutely no recollection of any of the events that night.
> >>>
> >>> He was found not guilty.......I don't think doctors prescribe this
> >>> drug anymore in Canada (unless patient is in a psychiatric
> >>> hospital).....its definitely banned in England.
> >>
> >> Cite the case law, please. I've taken Ambien and I certainly did
> >> remember doing such mundane things as getting up to use the toilet
> >> in the middle of the night. I'd definately recall having killed
> >> someone, so this is a farce
> >> or lawyers tricks. Ambien makes you sleepy, it doesn't turn you
> >> into a psychopathic killer. And you can buy over the counter sleep
> >> aids that make
> >> you feel much more "muddled" when you wake up than Ambien does.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Of course, everyone has to have the exact same experience as you
> > Jill.
>
> I never said such a thing; that is merely your perception. I was relating
> my experience with Ambien. I surely do believe I'd remember murdering
> people unless perhaps I was trippin' on some LSD or wigged out on crack.
>
> When I stopped working 3rd shift and started working 1st shift
> > I took Ambian to help me get my sleep on track.
> > I have absolutely no memory of certain events and started exhibiting
> > bizarre behavior, i.e., waking up in the middle of the night and
> > start cooking only to find later that I had done it w/ no memory.
> > Check out the side effects .. but of course, since you didn't have
> > some of those side effects they must not exist and it's all the
> > lawyers fault.
>
> I didn't say that, either. But then again, I'm not a walking pharmacy
with
> tons of drugs in my system. I took Ambien for a short time; mostly I use
> natural remedies like valerian root or valeriana tea or even chamomile
tea.
> Also a spritz of lavender on my pillow.
>
> Jill
>
>