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> rick wrote:
>> > wrote in message
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>> > rick wrote:
>> >> > wrote in message
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>> >> > Dutch wrote:
>> >> >> > wrote
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>> >> >> > Well, I would question whether we have the right to
>> >> >> > kill
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > cattle for
>> >> >> > food, unless it could somehow be shown that we were
>> >> >> > actually
>> >> >> > reducing
>> >> >> > the number of animal deaths by doing this.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is very reasonable to conclude that this is at least
>> >> >> *sometimes* the
>> >> >> case, but why does the number of animals who live or
>> >> >> who
>> >> >> die
>> >> >> have any
>> >> >> bearing on our right to use them as a food resource or
>> >> >> kill
>> >> >> them in
>> >> >> producing one? This is a silly notion that vegans
>> >> >> swallow
>> >> >> hook, line, and
>> >> >> sinker.
>> >> >
>> >> > Because we have an obligation not to kill sentient
>> >> > animals
>> >> > unnecessarily.
>> >> =====================
>> >> Then you're lying to yourself. Why are you here on usenet?
>> >> This
>> >> isn't necessary, and just for entertainment. It causes
>> >> massive
>> >> amounts of death and suffering to animals.
>> >
>> > The institution of Usenet causes massive amounts of death
>> > and
>> > suffering
>> > to animals.
>> =====================
>> Instutution? Are you projecting about your next home? Again,
>> read some sites...
>>
>> >
>> > I think I'd like to see a more detailed defence of that
>> > claim.
>> >
>> >> All unnecessary!
>> >> But then, it appears that to you, like most vegans, cows
>> >> are
>> >> somehow more sentient than other mammals, birds, reptiles,
>> >> fish
>> >> and amphibians.
>> >
>> > No.
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>> Then why is it bad to kill one cow, but ok to kill many
>> smaller
>> animals for the same calories?
>>
>
> It's better to kill one cow than many smaller animals. But
> there are
> collateral deaths involved in pasture-ruminant food production.
> You
> haven't convinced me that production of grass-fed beef causes
> less harm
> per serving of food than crop production.
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You haven't provided proof that there are other deaths involved
in grass-fed beef.
The beef I eat lives right down the road. There is no planting,
plowing, spraying, harvesting.
It goes to slaughter just a few miles away, and then right to us.
Tell us the route of destruction your bananas take, killer.



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>> >> How is that possible?
>> >>
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