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> rick wrote:
>> > wrote in message
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>> >
>> > rick wrote:
>> >> > wrote in message
>> >> oups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > Dutch wrote:
>> >> >> > wrote
>> >> >> > So, as I say, at the moment I'm comfortable with being
>> >> >> > vegan
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > advocating veganism, but I'm open to exploring
>> >> >> > alternatives.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A vegan exploring alternatives is an oxymoron. If you
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> prepared to
>> >> >> explore alternatives to the simplistic idea of veganism
>> >> >> then
>> >> >> you aren't a
>> >> >> vegan. If I tell a vegan that I can improve their diet
>> >> >> wrt
>> >> >> animal death and
>> >> >> suffering by substituting some fish or game, he will
>> >> >> always
>> >> >> find a way to
>> >> >> deny, equivocate or refuse to listen to that idea.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'll be a vegan as long as I avoid meat, fish, dairy, and
>> >> > eggs.
>> >> > If I
>> >> > ever stop doing that, then I won't be a vegan anymore. If
>> >> > you
>> >> > tell me
>> >> > that you can improve my diet with respect to animal
>> >> > suffering
>> >> > by
>> >> > substituting some fish or game, I'll ask you for the
>> >> > detailed
>> >> > evidence.
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>> >> Then you should be able to provide evidence that your vegan
>> >> diet
>> >> automatically means you kill fewer animals.
>> >
>> > Why? I never made that claim.
>> ==============
>> Then you should reread what you said above. Either that, or
>> you
>> are saying that your veggies kill NO animals since you claimed
>> we
>> have no right to kill animals for our food.
>>
>
> Sorry, missed this bit the first time around. I said we have no
> right
> to kill animals unnecessarily. I accept we probably don't have
> the
> right to kill as many animals as we currently do in crop
> production. I
> believe I am obliged to make every *reasonable* effort not to
> financially support unnecessary harm, not every *possible*
> effort. I
> believe that my vegan diet is one reasonable way of trying to
> meet this
> standard. If anyone thinks there is a non-vegan diet that can
> do
> better, I'm happy to listen to the evidence.
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Already been given fool. You keep ignoring it, as usual for a
vegan religious fanatic.
have you researched bananas yet?


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