homo pantywaist fudgepacker ronnie hamilton shrieked:

> Leif Erikson wrote:
> > Dave wrote:
> > > rick wrote:
> > > > "Dave" > wrote in message
> > > > ups.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > rick wrote:
> > > > >> "Dave" > wrote in message
> > > > >> ups.com...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > rick wrote:
> > > > >> >> "Dave" > wrote in message
> > > > >> >> oups.com...
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > rick wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> "Dave" > wrote in message
> > > > >> >> >> oups.com...
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> snippage...
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >> > If you do not buy grain fed, chemically laced meat
> > > > >> >> >> > then
> > > > >> >> >> > you
> > > > >> >> >> > have
> > > > >> >> >> > about the same impact upon the industries that produce
> > > > >> >> >> > it
> > > > >> >> >> > as
> > > > >> >> >> > vegans do.
> > > > >> >> >> ======================
> > > > >> >> >> Your logic is failing. I have an impact on the
> > > > >> >> >> industry.
> > > > >> >> >> I
> > > > >> >> >> buy
> > > > >> >> >> a product that directly competes with what loons rant
> > > > >> >> >> about.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Someone who stops eating beef will have to eat something
> > > > >> >> > else or go hungry. All food products are in competition
> > > > >> >> > with
> > > > >> >> > each other to some degree.
> > > > >> >> ==========================
> > > > >> >> Someone who does not eat meat and never will has no impact
> > > > >> >> on
> > > > >> >> the
> > > > >> >> meat industry they spew about.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > That is the point. They have no impact on the industry. They
> > > > >> > don't
> > > > >> > provide the motive for treating animals that way unlike
> > > > >> > people
> > > > >> > who
> > > > >> > consume the cheapest meats available.
> > > > >> ============================
> > > > >> Yet they do nothing to change the industry the spew about.
> > > > >> Having an impact for change means you have to participate.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reduction is a type of change.
> > > > ===========================
> > > > You're missing the point.
> > >
> > > No it's you who are missing the point.
> >
> > Rick is correct: YOU are the one missing the point
>
>
>
> No. ricky is an idiot.

No, Rick has this exactly right.


> > > > Since vegans do not and will not buy
> > > > meat they aren't reducing their use of meat. Since they do
> > > > participate, they have no impact.
> > >
> > > Their use of meat is less than it would be if they weren't vegan.
> > > By continuing to be vegan they are removing their contribution
> > > towards the commercial incentive to produce meat of any kind.
> >
> > No. You are wrong.
>
>
> No. No he's not.

Yes, he is. "vegans" are not having any impact beyond their initial
refusal to eat meat, and that wasn't much impact at all.