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Leif Erikson
 
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****wit David Harrison, hick in Buford, GA, lied:

> On 17 Jan 2006 08:58:34 -0800, "Dave" > wrote:
>
>
>>****wit David Harrison, hick in Buford, GA, lied:
>>
>>>On 15 Jan 2006 15:55:57 -0800, "Dave" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>****wit David Harrison, hick in Buford, GA, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>On 14 Jan 2006 05:50:01 -0800, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>We do not eat meat for the same reason cited by you. We eat eggs from
>>>>>>cage free chickens
>>>>>
>>>>> More on the chicken thing. Since most broiler chickens have decent
>>>>>but short lives,
>>>>
>>>>Unlikely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>eating chicken most often contributes to decent lives for
>>>>>chickens, along with the associated cds.
>>>>
>>>>What does the term "food conversion ratio" mean to you dhld?
>>>
>>> Little or nothing

>>
>>When you consume a broiler chicken you also indirectly consume all
>>the crops grown to feed that chicken.
>>
>>
>>>in regards to whether or not it's cruel to animals to
>>>raise them for food,

>>
>>I believe modern industrial methods of animal so-called farming
>>are cruel.

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>
> Some are. Some are not.


Not that you care, ****wit. ALL you care about is that
livestock exist.


>>I don't believe raising animals for food is cruel per-se.


****wit does, Dave. He believes killing animals for
human consumption requires some kind of mitigation.


>
>
> Sometimes they benefit. Sometimes they don't


NO animals "benefit" from coming into existence, ****wit.



>>>which is what I consider to be the main issue.

>>
>>It is one of the main issues. Environmental impact is the other.

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>
> I've often asked which wildlife and why. No one can answer.


No one will *bother* to answer, ****wit, because it
isn't a serious question; it's just another of your
****witted attempts to waste people's time, and for you
to avoid answering the *real* question: WHY are you so
obsessed with livestock continuing to exist?

Why won't you answer the question, ****wit?


>>>>>Eating meat substitutes like the
>>>>>following:
>>>>>
>>>>>Worthington Meatless Chicken, Turkey, Ham, Vegetarian Hot Dogs
>>>>>and Prosage Patties
>>>>>
>>>>>Lightlife Chicken Nuggets and Chicken Patties
>>>>>
>>>>>Boca Meatless Chick'n and Breakfast Patties
>>>>>
>>>>>Quorn Meat-Free Patties, Nuggets and Cutlets
>>>>>
>>>>>Morningstar Farms Garden Veggie Patties, Chick Patties,
>>>>>Chik'n Nuggets, Corn Dogs
>>>>>
>>>>>contributes to cds associated with raising chickens, plus those
>>>>>associated with the veggies in the products, plus it contributes
>>>>>to the battery method of raising hens
>>>>
>>>>Presumably the poster you are replying to would not eat the
>>>>products on those grounds.
>>>
>>> Maybe. It's more certain that he/she would not eat products
>>>in order to deliberately contribute to decent lives for animals
>>>raised to eat.

>>
>>With all that spinning you do

>
>
> Like what, exactly?


Your "animals' 'getting to experience life' is a
'benefit'" spinning, ****WIT - the spinning that I
don't let you get away with.