On 17 Jan 2006 08:58:34 -0800, "Dave" > wrote:
>
>dh@. wrote:
>> On 15 Jan 2006 15:55:57 -0800, "Dave" > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >dh@. wrote:
>> >> On 14 Jan 2006 05:50:01 -0800, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >We do not eat meat for the same reason cited by you. We eat eggs from
>> >> >cage free chickens
>> >>
>> >> More on the chicken thing. Since most broiler chickens have decent
>> >> but short lives,
>> >
>> >Unlikely.
>> >
>> >> eating chicken most often contributes to decent lives for
>> >> chickens, along with the associated cds.
>> >
>> >What does the term "food conversion ratio" mean to you dhld?
>>
>> Little or nothing
>
>When you consume a broiler chicken you also indirectly consume all
>the crops grown to feed that chicken.
>
>> in regards to whether or not it's cruel to animals to
>> raise them for food,
>
>I believe modern industrial methods of animal so-called farming
>are cruel.
Some are. Some are not.
>I don't believe raising animals for food is cruel per-se.
Sometimes they benefit. Sometimes they don't. IF you are
actually able to understand that fact, you are probably the
only other person besides myself who can. Even IF you are
able to understand the fact, as yet you have shown no
sign of being able to understand how it's significant. Neither
has anyone else.
>> which is what I consider to be the main issue.
>
>It is one of the main issues. Environmental impact is the other.
I've often asked which wildlife and why. No one can answer.
It's apparently a secret "answer" that no one can explain or even
try to explain.
>> >> Eating meat substitutes like the
>> >> following:
>> >>
>> >> Worthington Meatless Chicken, Turkey, Ham, Vegetarian Hot Dogs
>> >> and Prosage Patties
>> >>
>> >> Lightlife Chicken Nuggets and Chicken Patties
>> >>
>> >> Boca Meatless Chick'n and Breakfast Patties
>> >>
>> >> Quorn Meat-Free Patties, Nuggets and Cutlets
>> >>
>> >> Morningstar Farms Garden Veggie Patties, Chick Patties,
>> >> Chik'n Nuggets, Corn Dogs
>> >>
>> >> contributes to cds associated with raising chickens, plus those
>> >> associated with the veggies in the products, plus it contributes
>> >> to the battery method of raising hens
>> >
>> >Presumably the poster you are replying to would not eat the
>> >products on those grounds.
>>
>> Maybe. It's more certain that he/she would not eat products
>> in order to deliberately contribute to decent lives for animals
>> raised to eat.
>
>With all that spinning you do
Like what, exactly?