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On 14 Jan 2006 05:50:01 -0800, wrote:

wrote:
>> i'm 25 and i've not eaten meat for nearly 10 years. I'm also not
>> drinking milk at the moment and i've replaced it with soya milk in my
>> diet. the reasons are ethical and economic, one of the only real powers
>> we have is to with-hold our trade, and i refuse to support factory
>> farms by buying milk. anyway, i'm preaching to the converted.
>>
>> the substance of my post is this: i'm tired. i'm tired of explaining to
>> everyone who asks why i don't eat meat. tired of listening to everyone
>> at work at every job i go to saying how "but we're designed to eat
>> meat" or other such shit. i'm tired of always explaining how long i've
>> been vegetarian for, whether i eat fish or not, why i don't agree with
>> factory milk production, hormone treatment, antibiotics and artificial
>> insemination.
>>
>> i'm sick of going round in circles with everyone whom i talk to on this
>> topic. i'm sick of being "exposed" as a hypocrite as they inevitably
>> ask me if i buy products from supermarkets who also trade in milk and
>> meat.
>>
>> most of all i hate the way my inquisitors ask me with a smug grin like
>> they're the first to have ever questioned me on my diet, beliefs or
>> personal philosophy. No sir, i've had this EXACT conversation 6000
>> times, forgive me if i don't put too much into it.
>>
>> anyone else?
>
>We do not eat meat for the same reason cited by you. We eat eggs from
>cage free chickens

Then you are doing something to contribute to decent lives for
chickens, unlike if you didn't contribute to any.

>and drink some organic milk

What's that?

>but mostly soy milk.

· From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well
over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people
get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is
likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings
derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products
contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and
better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. ·

>As
>you see, there are different degrees and paths to vegetarianism but the
>common thread is our compassion for animals

Your consumption of cage free eggs is NOT veg*nism, but
it DOES contribute to decent lives for chickens. What I consider
to be an extremely legitimate complaint against "ethical" veg*ns,
is that they NEVER appear to care about such things.

>and our revulsion with the
>cruel and unsanitary practices of meat industry. Do not have your
>problems with our friends who are not vegetarians. Maybe you have the
>wrong kind of friends. It is no business of your co-workers how you
>live and you do not need to discuss anything with them, unless they ask
>you in a respectful manner. Most people who are not vegetarians are not
>meat industry shills.

LOL!!! I seriously doubt the "meat industry" pays anyone to post to
ngs. I've tried to get some chicken producers to stick up for themselves,
but they don't have any interest in all that. It would sure be nice if there
were some though. Now on the other side: I could believe there are some
veg*ns who are stupid enough to give people like Goo and Dutch something
for the crap they contribute, but I don't believe any meat producers are doing
anything like that.

>You only find those on the internet but you do
>not have to stay on this list where you will surely be attacked by meat
>industry shills.

LOL! It's sad. It's funny. It's a lie. And saddest, funniest, and worst of all:
you might actually believe it.

>This list is not for the tender hearted sensitive
>type:-)