The collateral deaths argument and the 'Perfect Solution Fallacy":a false dilemma.
Karen Winter lied:
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>> Karen Winter lied:
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>>>>> However, given the optimum example of each type, a vegan diet will
>>>>> always involve fewer deaths than a diet including meat, given the
>>>>> same parameters in each case. An *ideal* vegan diet would indeed
>>>>> involve no animal deaths at all, while even an *ideal* omnivore
>>>>> diet would involve at least some animal deaths.
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>>>> The ideal omnivore diet in this context would be a scavenger-gatherer
>>>> diet. There is no reason why this need cause any more deaths than
>>>> a pure gatherer diet.
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>>> That is completely true. I can see no ethical problem with a diet
>>> including scavenged meat, gathered unfertilized eggs, and so on.
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>> But technically this is still an omnivore diet.
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> Yes, true. I am more concerned with the spirit than the letter
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In other words, lip service - empty symbolism.
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