Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 07 Dec 2005 10:59:09p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
> PastaLover?
>
>
>>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed 07 Dec 2005 09:28:39p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
>>>PastaLover?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Andy Katz wrote:
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>>>>>On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:08:59 -0700, PastaLover >
>>>>>wrote:
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>I think it's called a Jamacian meat pattie, or an empanada, or a meat
>>>>>>pie, or a Cornish pasty... Just about every culture has something
>>>>>>like this, baked or fried, hand-held size or larger, dough or pastry
>>>>>>encasing a mix of ground meat, seasoning, and sometimes veggies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No. I'm talking specifically about meatloaf.
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy Katz
>>>>
>>>>After reading another couple posts, maybe I'm misunderstanding exactly
>>>>what it is you're wanting....
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This is typical meatloaf, the sort that Andy is referring to.
>>>Meatloaves are generally made with ground meats (beef, pork, veal).
>>>
>>> http://natural-beef.com/images/main-meatloaf.jpg
>>>
>>>Picture that wrapped entirely in pastry or puff paste and baked until
>>>the pastry is done. (I couldn't find a picture of that.)
>>>
>>
>>Okay. So is the meatloaf cooked before the pastry or at the same time?
>>If at the same time, it's what I originally described.
>>
>
>
> The meatloaf is baked first, then wrapped in pastry and baked again. If
> the meatloaf mixture was wrapped in pastry while still raw and then baked,
> no doubt the pastry would be burnt and very greasy by the time the meat
> inside was cooked. It's the mass of meat that makes the difference. Even
> with Beef Wellington (boeuf en croute) made with tenderloin of beef, the
> meat is roasted first, then wrapped in pastry and baked again.
>
> What you originally described were various hand-sized meat "pies", not
> meatloaves.
>
> I'm not trying to be snotty, but may I ask where you live that you have
> never seen or heard of a meatloaf?
>

I've heard of a meatloaf. Grandma used to make a lot of it. ;-)

I just didn't realize what exactly it was that you were talking about. I
was recently in so. Florida and every time I turned around, I was seeing
these Jacmaican meat patty things, so that was naturally what I thought
of when I saw something about ground meat in pastry.