Beach Runner wrote:
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> usual suspect wrote:
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>> Beach Runner wrote:
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>>> Back to the topic, people try to apply adult concepts to children, and
>>> it is essential that children get an adequate supply of healthy oils.
>>> A great example is an avocado as having great oils.
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>> I don't think it's very wise to recommend *vegans* consume foods like
>> avocados considering how far they're shipped. First, there are CDs
>> related directly to avocado production. That includes the use of
>> poisons to kill rodents as well as pesticides to curtail infestation
>> of various insects (which often leads to deaths of non-target species).
>> http://ceventura.ucdavis.edu/ben/avo...st/rodents.htm
>> http://ceventura.ucdavis.edu/ben/avo.../pest/pest.htm
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>> Second, there's the transportation issue. It takes a lot of diesel
>> fuel to ship avocados from California and Mexico to urban areas where
>> vegans thrive (if you ever saw Ted Nugent's reality show that included
>> vegan contestants, you'd know vegans don't thrive outside urban
>> areas). Diesel exhaust is very toxic.
>>
>> Map of avocado growing regions:
>> http://www.samcoharvest.com/images/GrowAvos.gif
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>> Diesel exhaust contains 20-100 times more particles than
>> gasoline exhaust. These particles carry cancer-causing
>> substances known as polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs).
>> Gases in diesel exhaust, such as nitrous oxide, nitrogen
>> dioxide, formaldehyde, benzene, sulfur dioxide, hydrogen
>> sulfide, carbon dioxide, and carbon monoxide can also create
>> health problems.
>> http://www.afscme.org/health/faq-dies.htm
>>
>> (The above is a leftist labor group. The following is another leftist
>> group.)
>>
>> The scientific evidence is clear: diesel exhaust is a complex
>> mixture comprised of hazardous particles and vapors, some of
>> which are known carcinogens and others probable carcinogens.
>> Diesel exposure poses a significant and avoidable increase in
>> human health risks. Compelling evidence from dozens of
>> well-designed studies supports the conclusion that diesel
>> exhaust causes cancer. In addition, fine particles from diesel
>> exhaust aggravate respiratory illnesses such as bronchitis,
>> emphysema and asthma and are associated with premature deaths
>> from cardio-pulmonary disorders.
>> http://www.nrdc.org/air/transportation/ebd/chap2.asp
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>> What's in diesel exhaust? Here's a *partial* list from OSHA:
>> * Major Components.
>> o Carbon dioxide, ID-172
>> o Carbon monoxide, ID-210
>> o Nitrogen dioxide, ID-182, NIOSH 6014
>> o Nitric oxide, ID-190, NIOSH 6014
>> o Particulates, NIOSH 5040 (new method for Diesel Exhaust
>> Particulates), NIOSH 0500 (*.zip file in WordPerfect format)
>> o Sulfur dioxide, ID-200
>> * Minor Components
>> o Acrolein, OSHA 52, NIOSH 2539
>> o o-Anisaldehyde
>> o Benzene, OSHA 12, NIOSH
>> o 2,3-Benzofuran
>> o Coumarin
>> o Formaldehyde, OSHA 52, NIOSH 2541 (*.zip file in
>> WordPerfect format), NIOSH 2539
>> o 4-Hydroxycoumarin
>> o m-Hydroxyacetophenone
>> o 2-Hydroxy-4-methoxyacetophenone
>> o Menadione
>> o 6-Methoxytetralone
>> o 6-Methylcoumarin
>> o 3-Methyl-2-cyclopentene-2-ol-one
>> o Trimethylbenzene
>> o Polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons, OSHA 58, NIOSH 5506,
>> NIOSH 5515
>> + Acenaphthene
>> + Acenaphthylene
>> + Anthracene
>> + Benz[a]anthracene
>> + Benzo[b]fluoranthene
>> + Benzo[k]fluoranthene
>> + Benzo[ghi]perylene
>> + Benzo[a]pyrene
>> + Benzo[e]pyrene
>> + Crysene
>> + Dibenz[a,h]anthracene
>> + Fluoranthene
>> + Fluorene
>> + Indeno[1,2,3-cd]pyrene
>> + Naphthalene, OSHA 35
>> + Phenanthrene
>> + Pyrene
>> http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/dieselexhaust/chemical.html
>>
>> Approximately *27,000 tons* of particulate matter pour into California's
>> air every year. That includes toxic particulates used to farm your
>> precious imported Lundberg rice, which is transported using even more
>> diesel engines -- poisoning Californians and everyone and everything
>> else between California and Toronto.
>> http://www.arb.ca.gov/toxics/dieseltac/factsht1.pdf
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>> See also: http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=36089
>>
>> Diesel exhaust hurts humans as much as it hurts the animals.
>>
>>> Olive oil is great for children.
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>> Since this is a vegan newsgroup, is it great for *animals*? California
>> doesn't produce nearly as much olive oil as the countries dotting the
>> Mediterranean. How many animals die in olive production and how many
>> more die in transporting olive oil from the Mediterranean?
>> http://www.cooc.com/fagr.html
>> And re-read diesel exhaust info above.
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> My next door neighboors have an avocado tree, as do my parents.

*in third-grade teacher voice*
Do they have enough for the whole class?

I don't give a shit what you, your parents, or your neighbors have in
your yards. Most people don't have access to homegrown avocados. That
means they have to ship them in from regions where they grow. Dittos for
olives (guess your father doesn't have olive trees) and olive oil. The
commercial farming of avocados and olives causes animals to die. So does
the transportation. How is all that needless animal killing consistent
with veganism?