"Glorfindel" > wrote in message
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> C. James Strutz wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>James has acknowledged that vegans live in ignorance of the
>>>issue, that much is already settled.
>
>> No, I have not acknowledged that, and just because I suggested
>> it doesn't mean that the matter is settled.
>
> It depends on the individual. Those who have studied the
> issue at all are aware of the negative effects of modern
> agricultural methods across the board. Many consumers are
> ignorant. Vegetarians and vegans tend to be more aware,
> because they have first considered the effect of production on
> animals and decided they did not want to participate in the
> system which causes so much suffering and injustice toward food
> animals and other animals used to produce products for human
> use.
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And they stop right there! Usenet vegans come here with complete
ignorance of their impact on animals and the environment. If
fact, many have come here and declared that their diet causes
*NO* animal deaths. So much for your next claim that they
research any further than propaganda site against meat.


From there, it is only a small step to considering the
> effect of similar methods on animals in production of other
> products.
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You would think so, wouldn't you? Only usenet vagans have proven
time and time again they have not gone beyond the simple rule for
their simple minds, 'eat no meat.'


People who have stopped buying one kind of product
> on ethical grounds are usually open to suggestions that they
> should boycott other products on ethical grounds, and many
> vegans and vegetarians do so.
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Not the one4s here on usenet. they continue to prove that caring
for animals is a pose, not a real concern. Afterall, here they
are, spewing their ignorance for all the world to see.



It works the other way, too:
> people who have decided to buy only shade-grown coffee or
> chocolate produced by humanely-treated workers or non-sweatshop
> clothing can easily see the connection with not buying animal
> products from factory-farmed or abused animals. People who
> routinely buy products from Wal-Mart, produced by slave-labor
> in
> China or the barrio in Los Angeles, and sold by badly-treated
> employees, will usually buy factory-farmed meat as well.
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What a coincidence, the same is true for you and everyother
usenet veagn is buying factory-farmed veggies.

>
> The issue of treatment of animals is closely tied in with
> similar
> issues of treatment of workers and the environment, as most
> vegans
> and vegetarians are aware.
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No, they prove that by continuing to focus *only* on what they
think others are doing. But thanks again for proving the true
lack of concern that usenet vegans have for animals, killer.


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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>