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Leif Erikson
 
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Default Life per se does not have a positive value

dh@. wrote:

> On 16 Nov 2005 12:16:42 -0800, "Leif Erikson" > wrote:
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>>dh@. pointed out to Goo:

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>>> Since you have no clue how anything could ever
>>>benefit from living--regardless of quality of life

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>>NOTHING "benefits" from coming into existence. An entity benefits by
>>having a high quality life compared with a low quality life; NOT
>>comparing it with never existing.
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>>Your choice is a FALSE choice: not "decent life" versus "no life at
>>all", rather "decent life" vs "bad life".

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> You may truly be too stupid to understand


I understand it fully. You are posing a false choice.
The choice is not "decent lives for farm animals" vs
"no life".


>>>It doesn't mean none do

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>>No animal "benefits" from coming into existence. Animals benefit from
>>humane treatment IF they exist.

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> Either they benefit from their life or they don't.


No animal benefits from coming into existence. Period.