dh@. lied:

> On 16 Nov 2005 Leif Erikson wrote:
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>>I'm not an "ara".
>>
>>
>>>insist that life has no value for any animals or
>>>humans regardless of quality,
>>
>>No animal or person "benefits" from coming into existence.
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> YOU/"ARAs"

I'm not an "ara".


> insist life can not have positive value for farm animals

"Getting to experience life" per se has no value to
farm animals; none whatever.


>>>>>The living
>>>>>animals lives are morally significant because they indicate how we treat the
>>>>>animals.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Combining egg and sperm for the purpose of creating a product
>>>>>>>involves no sacrifice, no "consideration" of the well-being of any animal.
>>>>>>>Those are the morally relevant concepts in this equation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The rest is just more of your rubbish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can contribute to the lives they get, or try not to.
>>>>>
>>>>>And if their lives are not decent then you shouldn't. You don't make any
>>>>>effort to ensure that they are.
>>>>
>>>>Or, if you decide mostly for health but partly for aesthetic reasons
>>>>not to eat meat, you also shouldn't.
>>>
>>> These quotes explain how YOU/"ARAs" want everyone to feel
>>>about raising animals for food
>>
>>I'm not an "ara".
>
>
> LOL!

It's the truth.