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Leif Erikson
 
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Default Life can have positive value

dh@. wrote:

> On 16 Nov 2005 12:22:27 -0800, "Leif Erikson" > wrote:
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>>dh@. explained to the Goober:

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>>> I believe most broilers, turkeys, beef and dairy cattle, and cage free
>>>hens have decent lives.

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>>You don't make any effort to ensure that the animals you consume had
>>decent lives.

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> How could we do that?


That's your problem.


>>>>>You can not
>>>>>contribute to "better" lives for them, as you dishonestly claim.
>>>>
>>>>More tap-dancing. "Them" refers to all livestock, not to specific animals.
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>>> LOL! Yes it does. When I buy cage free eggs to contribute to life for
>>>future cage free laying hens

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>>You aren't.

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> I am.


You aren't. You're eating eggs.


>>You are buying the eggs because you want to eat them.

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> I don't buy cage free eggs because I particularly want to eat cage
> free eggs


Then you shouldn't buy them. Why would you buy and eat
something you don't particularly want to eat? You're
not making any sense (not that you ever did.)


>>>>Once you consume an animal product it's too late for that animal, but by
>>>>making the right choices you can have a positive impact on the treatment of
>>>>animals in general.
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>>> Of FUTURE animals.

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>>IF they exist.

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> LOL.


For some reason, that big "IF" seems to tie you up in
knots.


>>There is no moral reason for them to exist.