Phil Odox wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Savory made from nuts
>>>>>>>>>>>> Breadcrumbs wheat and rye.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tastes as good, nutritious too
>>>>>>>>>>>> And nothing has to die!
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>>>>>>>>>> That is a correct statement.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Guess again, you prancing poof. Plenty of animals DO die as a
>>>>>>>>>>> result of the farming, transportation, and storage practices
>>>>>>>>>>> associated with grains. Many of the deaths are intentional
>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e., pesticides). Others aren't intentional (e.g., flooding
>>>>>>>>>>> during irrigation, burning fields, predation when croplands
>>>>>>>>>>> are harvested, slicing and dicing during planting and
>>>>>>>>>>> harvest, etc.).
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>>>>>>>>>> That maybe so, but the it doesn't take anything away from
>>>>>>>>>> nemo's correct statement; nothing *has* to die to provide
>>>>>>>>>> vegetarians with food.
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>>>>>>>>> well, you mean nothing with a face has to die.
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>>>>>>>> "Has to die" is meaningless sophistry when you know damn well
>>>>>>>> that animals DO die in the normal course of commercial-scale
>>>>>>>> agriculture.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They might,
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>>>>>> They do die in the NORMAL course of commercial-scale agriculture.
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>>>>> That may be so,
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>>>> It is so.
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>>>>> occasionally,
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>>>> Wrong. NORMALLY. ROUTINELY.
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>>> No,
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>> Yes.
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>>> and even then we still have the fact
>>> that they didn't have to.
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>> That's a wish, not a fact.
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>>>>>> Yoursophistry, as noble as you may think it is to prate
>>>>>> incessantly about not harming animals, is specious and meaningless
>>>>>> since it's fantasy-based rather than reality-based.
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>>>>> I've grown tons of the stuff
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>>>> Liar
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>>> You're very quick to call everyone you disagree with a liar,
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>> Wrong, not everyone.
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> I've been following the discussions on this board for a few days now,

Small sample problem.

> and you are very quick to call everyone you disagree with a liar. Don't
> deny it.

I have to deny that because it's not true.

>>>> and yet again you've failed to address the fact that
>>>> commercially-grown wheat and rye causes harm to animals
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>>> That might well be true
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>> It IS true,
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> Not in all circumstances,

It is in yours. You're no different than someone who eats meat, except
you're disingenuous, hypocritical, and sanctimonious about it.