Phil Odox wrote:
>>> Animals don't have to die in vegetable production.
>>
>> But they *do*.
>
> Occasionally,

Every day. Normally. Systematically.

> yes,

End of argument. The fact that they DO die makes your argument
completely irrelevant.

> but they certainly don't have to.

They certainly DO die. And that's the fly in your ointment, fruitcake --
reality trumps your fantasy.

>>That makes vegetarians who claim some form of virtue
>>arising from a meatless diet to be hypocrites.
>
> How so?

Because they talk the talk. They don't walk the walk.

> They choose a diet which doesn't mean that animals *have*
> to die for their food,

They choose a diet in which animals DO die. That makes their ethical
claims pretty ****ing hollow, and makes them hypocrites.

> and that's what ethical vegetarianism is
> all about.

"Ethical vegetarian" is oxymoronic and nothing but empty gestures from
empty souls.