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>
> Other guy wrote:
>> I already told you I value human life above all others.

>
>
> That makes you a liar, plain ****en stupid or both, I suspect both.


**** you sideways with a broken bottle.

> Check your premises moron. Contradictions do not exist in reality
> because what is real is real.
>
> If you *valued* a humam life *above* all else, then you would NOT give
> an animal the identical values as you do a human being.


I don't, another strawman, you're setting a record for dishonesty.

> You would not
> claim that morals apply to animals,


I didn't. Humans are prohibited from stealing cars, that doesn't mean morals
apply to cars.

> you not would not claim innocence
> and guilt are concepts that apply to animals.


Guilt doesn't apply to animals, innocence does.

> AND you would NOT treat humans the same way as you do an animal.


Another strawman. I already told you that I would kill a dog that bites
children, I wouldn't kill a human who bites children, I'd get him treatment.

> An adult human being who steals, even by fraud, from other human beings
> deserves to be in jail, alongside rapists murderers muggers and all
> other scum who initiate physical force against peaceful individuals,
> against their will belong in jail.


OK. Why not animal abusers? Why are you protecting them? You must be one.

> If it was true that you value human beings *above all else* then Dog
> beaters (as much as you may dispise them) do not belong in jail,


Why not?

> which
> is where they MUST go if they do not pay your ****en invented fines -
> The Rule of Law.
>
> The very idea of sending a dog beater to jail, is the idea that humans
> are NOT being treated *above all else*.


That's a fallacy. I would send a person who defaces public property to jail,
that doesn't mean I value public property over human life. You're blowing
smoke out your ass Mikey.

> YOUR morals, your values (eg that animals and humans be treated
> identically) as bizzare as they are, belong to YOU.


Wrong again, I'm reflecting already existing, common moral values.

> If you dont like the way a human being treats an animal AND IF you hold
> human values above all else,


You're moving the goalposts now Mikey. I said I value and respect "human
life" above all other forms of life, I don't respect the value that says
it's acceptable to abuse an animal.

You just can't debate honestly can you? If you did you'd lose immediately,
that's why.

> then you have NO CHOICE but to find
> another way of convincing that human to leave the dog alone.


Laws are the usual way of sending the message to citizens what behaviour is
acceptable and what behaviour is not, why invent another means?