On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Gregory Morrow wrote:

>
> JimLane wrote:
>
>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>> Peter Aitken wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "JimLane" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Aitken wrote:
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You really don't know the point of organic? There are three:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Not eating insecticides, fungicides, and other chemicals that may
>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Letting farmworkers do their job without exposure to poisons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) Reducing the environmental harm done by insecticides, fungicides,
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>>>>> fertilizer runoff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the grand scheme of things I really don't care about any of that
>>>>>> stuff...it's akin to the "Recycling is GOOD" mantra that a lot of folx
>>>>>> buy
>>>>>> into...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And you seem to be akin to the "screw the earth, I won't be around to
>>>
>>> see
>>>
>>>>> the repercussions of the fuc+ked up earth I'll leave to my grand kids."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If organic were cheaper he would buy it, I bet. Cheapness and
> selfishness
>>>> are the operative words here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've never noticed any diff between the "organic" stuff and the regular
>>> purveyed at the average soopermart, if I want really good produce I'll
> visit
>>> the local farmer's market in season or go to an ethnic or greengrocer
> who
>>> carries very good produce...in any case you can bet I won't be visiting
> some
>>> yuppie rip - off joint like Whole Foods. Unless y'all offer to pay, that
> is
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> As for "cheapness", I really don't cotton to the idear of spending even
>>> *more* of my food budget to "save the planet" or whatever...I ain't Paul
>>> Ehrlich. Spending 25+% for my produce ain't gonna make a dent in the
>>> world's problems...
>>>
>>> If "organic" were the same price, then no problemo. But it isn't...
>>>
>>
>> What part of a flood starting one rain drop at a time don't you
> understand?
>>
>
>
> So buying non - "organic" produce causes floods, is that it, eh?

Buying from stupid farmers causes floods.

Stupid farming: Conventional version is done without having crops planted
at all times, so that rain tends to wash away a lot of topsoil.

Stupid farming: Organic version involves putting more acres into
agriculture, and not using those same acres for swamps/forests and other
wild places that are naturally resistant to flooding (and provide
protection for the farmers).

Lena