"Derek" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 02:46:57 GMT, "rick" > wrote:
>
> [..]
>>No one has yet to prove that going vegan automatically reduces
>>your impact. Go for it. Be the first.
>
> Jon, or rather Rudy has already done so with;
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No, they did not show that it automatically improved anything,
fool. Try reading for comprehension, oh, and ask your buddy
Aristotle about your continued culpability, killer.



>
> "If you insist on playing a stupid counting game, you'll
> lose. "vegans" and a few sensible meat eaters alike
> have pointed out that the overwhelming majority of
> grain is grown to feed livestock. That means if you
> eat meat that you bought at a store, you cause more
> deaths: the deaths of the animals you eat, plus the
> CDs of the animals killed in the course of producing
> feed for the animals you eat.
>
> The counting game is doubly stupid to be offered by
> meat eaters: the moral issue isn't about counting, and
> the meat eater will always lose the game, unless he
> hunts or raises and slaughters his own meat."
> Jonathan Ball Date: 2003-05-22
>
> But being the weak nebbish you so obviously are, you
> avoided trying to refute his claims and continue ranting
> at the vegans instead for every morsel of food they eat,
> for the power they use while posting messages to Usenet,
> and for just about anything else you can think of without
> any evidence to even support these claims. And all the
> while while trying to attack them in this way you have
> the gall to deny the collateral deaths associated with the
> production of foods you eat, as in;
>
> "The production of my beef promotes no CDs. Period."
>
> and
>
> "The production of the beef I eat causes no CDs."
> rick etter Nov 15 2003 http://tinyurl.com/cpdy7
>
> So, rather than attack vegans for the collateral deaths
> they readily accept are associated with their diets, when
> are you going to support your claim that the beef you
> eat causes no collateral deaths at all? In short, when
> are you going to stop lying and being such a hypocrite?