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Beach Runner wrote:

Why do you reply to the same ****ing messages over and over and over?

>>>>> Obviously, a rabbit is not a chicken.
>>>>
>>>> It's okay, rabbits taste like chicken.
>>>
>>> It not ok

>>
>> Yes, it is.
>>
>>> if you care about the suffering of rabbits.

>>
>> You don't give half a shit about rabbits, Bob. If you did, you would
>> avoid ALL commercially grown grains, legumes, and vegetables because
>> rabbits are among the animals killed in producing those foods. Rabbits
>> die during the planting, irrigation, harvesting, transporting, and
>> storage of all those foods. They die both intentionally and collaterally.
>>
>>> This is a vegan group, and generally we care about suffering of animals.

>>
>> No. You don't. You only care that people eat certain animals, but you
>> don't care that animals die in the course of producing your own diet.

>
> I generally pay the difference for organic produce.


You're the reason the organic industry is taking off. The organic
industry feeds off naive, gullible dolts like you.

[O]rganic pesticides have very real drawbacks. Most of them are
broad spectrum, meaning they kill beneficial insects (just like
those dangerous synthetic chemicals). They are not as thoroughly
tested as synthetics. Batch strength can vary. And, perhaps most
dangerous of all, they are perceived by the gardening public as
safe. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
http://www.headlice.org/news/2005/pesticidemyth.htm


Even if a product is considered to be organic, it is still a
pesticide. It is important to be careful when using any
pesticide, even organic or natural pesticides. Just because a
product is thought to be organic, or natural, does not mean that
it is not toxic. Some organic pesticides are as toxic, or even
more toxic, than many synthetic chemical pesticides. Organic
pesticides have specific modes of action, just as do synthetic
pesticides.
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm


As new organic labeling laws take effect this week, the USDA has
pointed out that it "makes no claim that organically produced
food is safer or more nutritious than conventionally produced
food." However, this has not stopped organic marketers from
making such claims.
http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl.../oct_22_02.htm


The claim that organic food slows global warming is rendered
even more foolish by the fact that all those extra cattle
[required for manure to fertilize organic crops] would
emit lots of methane, a greenhouse gas that's 20 times as potent
as CO2. More cattle to produce manure for organic farming would
not only mean cutting all our trees, but additional clouds of
methane trapping heat in the atmosphere. Ms. Hammond even warns
us about methane from cattle when she tells us not to eat meat.

Great. A billion extra cattle will eat our vegetation down to
dust, and we won't even eat the meat.
http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl.../dec_31_04.htm


The latest research from the University of Minnesota renews
concerns that organic produce has higher bacterial risks than
conventional fruits and vegetables. The Minnesota researchers
found significantly more E. coli and more Salmonella bacteria on
organic produce than conventional.

But the researchers themselves say, "Don't worry." They say that
finding more E. coli bacteria on organic foods fertilized with
manure doesn't mean the organic stuff is more dangerous.
Instead, it merely "supports the idea that organic produce is
more susceptible to fecal contamination."
http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl.../may_26_04.htm


"It doesn't matter what's true, it only matters what consumers
believe." Sadly, these are the words of Horizon Organic Dairy
CEO Chuck Marcy commenting this year to dairy marketing
professionals on consumer misperceptions regarding non-existent
health and safety benefits of milk marketed as organic.
http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl...june_18_03.htm

See also:
http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl...3/feb_6_03.htm
Etc.

> Yes, I care about animals losing habitat


No, you don't. You moved from an urban area in or near NYC to the Tampa
area. The Tampa-St Pete area's growth rate has caused extensive loss of
habitat, and the effects of that area's growth are felt along the rest
of the Gulf Coast.

> and collateral damage.


Liar.