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(Preacher) wrote:

> JMW > wrote:
>
> > (Preacher) wrote:
> >
> > >JMW > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Morality and justice are relative to circumstances. Always have been;
> > >> always will be. There are no absolutes.
> > >
> > >Except that one, apparently.
> > >
> > >So, for instance, I guess you can describe a real-life circumstance in
> > >which raping a six year old child or torturing a baby would be just or
> > >moral?
> >
> > You're the one who visualized it. You tell me.
>
> No, I can't imagine any circumstances under which such behavior would be
> moral or just. Which indicates to me that there are some absolutes -
> morality and justice are not purely relative.

There are cultural precedents.

Infibulation of pubescent girl children comes to mind...

_I_ think it's sick and immoral, (and I consider it torture and
mutilation) but it's not only acceptable to the Somali culture, it's
considered immoral to NOT do it.

But, as mentioned in another post, this has diddly squat to do with
growing meat in a petri dish!

I thought the concept was rather interesting from a global economic
point of view! Inventory that eats grain and has to be cleaned up after
is a lot of work and takes up a lot of space, and requires more fertile
ground that may not exsist in some desert type areas of the world.

Meat that could be grown in giant media vats could probably provide the
protein needs of many for a far lower economic and ecologic impact!

I, for one, am entertained by thread drift, but the original topic is
fascinating enough to follow up on IMHO! There are more than just
"moral" issues at stake.
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson