Beach Runner wrote:
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> usual suspect wrote:
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>> Beach Runner wrote:
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>>>>> Regardless,
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>>>> CSPI are activists. You cannot disregard that. They're food Nazis.
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>>>>> he is a fully acredited medical doctor.
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>>>> Then why the hell is he basing his opinions on activists rather than
>>>> science?
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>>> Read his sources.
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>> I did. CSPI doesn't count as a medical or scientific source. They're
>> activists.
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>>> They include a wide range of technical journals.
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>> It's his conclusions, not his sources, that cause me to question his
>> comprehension.
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>>> He is a medical doctor.
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>> Big ****ing deal. So was Robert Atkins. So was Harold Shipman.
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>>> He also contributes to change organizations.
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>> That's a great reason to discount what he says.
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>>> It's called being a concerned citizen.
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>> No, it's called activism. It also shows he has an agenda rather than
>> being a scientist who's concerned with the truth. His agenda is at
>> odds with the truth.
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> Scientists that see the obvious truth,

No, activists do. Some scientists can't separate their biases from their
work. The science is equivocal: there is no clear-cut evidence that the
earth is being overheated due to human activity, and scientists
accordingly are split in their opinions whether or not it is.

> are trying to prepare and prevent
> global warming.

Activists try to prevent it, yet they were the ones forty-years ago
saying we were heading to another Ice Age due to human activity. Why
can't these leftists make up their minds, Boob?

http://www.sepp.org/misuse/failpred.html

> Even the Republican Governor is scared about the QUICK
> change.

He's a money-grubbing fat **** who misses his days of pilfering
appropriations for his state and who thought his daughter would be able
to take over the family business in DC. He was wrong. His whining is not
only unbecoming, it will hopefully be unfruitful.

> As far as your comments about Mad Cow Disease, and comparing it to other
> long term brain disorders. It is not simply a long term brain disorder.

Yes, it is. It's a degenerative disorder which takes time both to
manifest and run its course.

> The only known way of getting it is by eating fresh that has prions in
> it.

Ipse dixit and false.

> Worse, it is contagious to people.

Ipse dixit and unproven.

> The fact that in human beings it
> is called another disease, it is the same disease.

Ipse dixit and false. Species-specific TSEs exist. Scrapie is distinct
from BSE, which is distinct from vCJD and CJD.

> If the cattle
> industry had fully complied with the changes there would be no new
> cases.

Ipse dixit. The industry IS complying and human infections have begun to
decline, as I showed you several days ago.

> A recent set of cases were shown in Britain.

Britain has had a steep decline in the rate of new vCJD cases.

> Now I admit, if you grow your own meat, and thus know the source, and
> butcher the animal yourself, you eliminate the risk.

Ipse dixit. You know nothing of the mechanics of prion disease. Infected
sheep and goats can infect an entire grazing area, and animals grazed in
the same fields can (and usually will) develop scrapie. Scrapie isn't
transmissible to humans (there has been only one case reported that I'm
aware of). It is believed that other TSEs, including BSE, aren't so
virulent that grazing areas remain a source of transmission of BSE from
one generation of cattle to another.

> It also protects
> you from the rampant use of antibiotics and chemicals if you control the
> food supply.

That has nothing to do with the issue at hand, you babbling prat.

> Now, if you think it moral to eat cows, that's another
> matter. I happen to be a vegan and do not consider it a vegan.

Cattle are vegan. It's morally acceptable to eat them.

> And guess what? This is a vegan group, for people who are vegans.

It's a group for discussing veganism. That encompasses two sides of an
argument. Too bad you can't handle the other.

> You abuse it.

No, you do through deceit, errors, and parroting activists instead of
using your own braincell. Why do you feel compelled to lie and distort
matters pertaining to veganism if it's meritorious? You lied about
groups who DON'T endorse veganism or vegetarianism, but only offer
qualified support for them. You lie about issues related to meat
production. You lie about diseases like BSE/vCJD. As a brazen liar and
village idiot, you're the last person anyone should listen to about
veganism, or anything else for that matter.