"Derek" > wrote
> On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:51:29 GMT, Beach Runner > wrote:
>
>>this is a vegan group, a google search under animals and learning will
>>show lots of great info. Derek is obviously anti-vgan.
>
> Nope. I'm a vegan and have been for nigh on 15
> years for ethical reasons. I see animals as rights-
> holders but don't believe they can experience
> emotions.

How do you define an emotion? What is happening in a dog who is shown his
favorite play-toy when his head and tail become erect and and he pants and
dances around in circles by the door? If that is not anticipation of a
familiar desirable activity AND an expression of emotion then what is it?