Scented Nectar wrote:
<...>
>>>Stop quoting me incorrectly.
>>
>> I do indeed believe that killing animals is wrong...
>> http://tinyurl.com/88pb4
>>
>>Want more examples where you never qualified it with "mostly" (which is
>>irrelevant)?
>
> My current further explanation

Spin. That's all it is. It's not convincing, either.

> of it is that it is mostly wrong.

It makes no difference whether you qualify it or not.

> You know that is my current
> view.

Current *spin*.

> Even before, I was right

No, you've always been wrong.

<...>
>>>>>You use it as a frequent
>>>>>insult. Do you have that
>>>>>much fear over nonconformity?
>>>>
>>>>Non-conformity has nothing to do with "veganic" foods. Address the issue
>>>>at hand, Skanky.
>>>
>>>Ask nicely.
>>
>>**** you. Address the issue at hand.
>
> Ask nicely.

**** you. Address the issue at hand.

>>>>>I don't. Some of the choices
>>>>>I make in life are mainstream
>>>>>but some aren't.
>>>>
>>>>"Veganic" isn't mainstream. It's not even on the fringes of mainstream
>>>>acceptance.
>>>
>>>Oh my, how awful.
>>
>>Why do you think it'll be on supermarket shelves in the near future, you
>>dumb ****?
>
> You have a problem with women
> don't you.

No.

> You blamed your
> friction with your
> girlfriend on her PMS and
> her desire for 'chick flicks'.

I didn't blame anyone, you filthy bitch.

> I guess you can do no wrong.

I agree with her that I flirt too much and that I sometimes don't
include her in my plans. We get along great 99.99% of the time --
certainly better than Jimbo does by driving his psychologist-girlfriend
nuts through his woeful inability to socialize, which was the whole
point of what I actually wrote, you stupid ****.

<...>
>>You buy knowing that you continue to wantonly kill animals in the name
>>of convenience and personal preferences, and in spite of your principle
>>that killing animals is wrong.
>
> I buy knowing that it's
> connected to

CDs. Period. You still wantonly kill animals even though you think it's
wrong to do so.

<...>
>>You have no viewpoint. You're only a ****ing parrot.
>
> Oh really? A parrot of who
> exactly?

Activists and other snake-oil salesmen (e.g., your continued parroting
of unfounded bullshit about hemp oil even after being informed what
omega-6 and omega-9 FAs really are).

>>>>>It's me who decides what my
>>>>>morals and principles are.
>>>>
>>>>You've shared them with us. You've also proven they mean nothing to you.
>>>
>>>I must have missed sharing them
>>>with you since you misquote them
>>>all the time. What's up with that?
>>
>> I do indeed believe that killing animals is wrong...
>> http://tinyurl.com/88pb4
>>
>>Want more examples where you never qualified it with "mostly" (which is
>>irrelevant)?
>
> It's not irrelevant.

It is irrelevant.

> It explains better what I mean.

No, it doesn't. It's only spin -- no substantive difference from what
you've written before.

>>>>>I'm happy with what I do and don't
>>>>>do.
>>>>
>>>>That's not a moral or a principle. It's your cop-out.
>>>
>>>It's just a simple statement
>>
>> From a very simple mind. You're culpable for deaths related to your
>>consumption.
>
> The farmers and equipment
> manufacturers are.

Stop passing the buck. You know the alternatives if you believe killing
animals is wrong. Your refusal to engage in the existing alternatives
and to pass the buck in this manner shows how disingenuous you are. You
are unprincipled.

>>>>>>>>>All manure must be
>>>>>>>>>composted before it's addition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Not commercial amendments. They say it's fully composted, but they
>>>
>>>don't
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>always achieve their goal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 5 acres,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pipedream. You'll never have one acre, Skanky.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why not?
>>>>
>>>>Because you don't do jack shit now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>When I retire, I can
>>>>>pretty much live anywhere I
>>>>>like, within reason.
>>>>
>>>>Hardly.
>>>
>>>With pensions and benefits I
>>>can live pretty much anywhere.
>>
>>With a salary or savings, you could do that now. You've ably
>>demonstrated your lip-service, excuse-making, buck-passing, and
>>procrastination.
>
> I can't live 2 hours away from
> the city right now.

Yes, you can. You choose not to.

> That would be ridiculous.

It would put you in a position of practicing what you preach. Is that
ridiculous?

>>>>>The prices
>>>>>are good where I'm considering.
>>>>
>>>>Prices are good? Ha ha! WTF does that mean? You better hope for a
>>>>correction in real estate if you want to retire south of your border.
>>>>Prices this way have been rising steadily.
>>>
>>>Currently, I'm thinking of the
>>>smallish patches of zone 6
>>>in southern Ontario. But
>>>who knows.
>>
>>I do. You'll remain tethered to the conveniences of city life.
>
> You can't say that with any
> certainty.

I have and I will continue to do so: You'll remain tethered to the
conveniences of city life. The rest of your developmentally-arrested life.

>>>I could always
>>>retire to the US.
>>
>>You won't.
>
> The climate zones might
> convince me.

They won't.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Also, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>turning the compost bins,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if there are worms there,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they could get hurt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don't abuse the worms, killer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Too late.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know. Killer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't deny that some worms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>will be causualties. I never did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You denied it -- and excused it -- up until you learned that
>>>
>>>cutting
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>worms kills them instead of causes them to reproduce.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Actually it kills one half of them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I believe killing animals is wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>-- Skanky
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mostly,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Doesn't matter how you try to spin it, killer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Killer of some bugs and a few
>>>>>>>worms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Direct culpability for those and directly for many other animals in
>
> the
>
>>>>>>form of CDs from your refusal to practice what you preach.
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't blame other people's cds
>>>>>on me.
>>>>
>>>>I'm only blaming you for the ones attributable to your own choices.
>>>
>>>Oh yeah, my choice to eat food
>>
>>Your choice to eat CERTAIN FOODS with high CD rates.
>>
>>
>>>>>If you want to blame me
>>>>>for bugs and some worms in
>>>>>my farming methods, fine, but
>>>>>keep the other cds directed at
>>>>>their originators.
>>>>
>>>>You're an "originator" of CDs.
>>>
>>>Nope.
>>
>>Yes. Killer.
>
> Nope.

Yes. Your consumption of specific foods produced in specific ways,
despite the existence of reasonable alternatives, puts the blame
squarely on your sagging shoulders.

>>>>>>>>>>Killing them half-by-half should also be wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Sometimes both halves.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I believe killing animals is wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>-- Skanky
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>As far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as I can see it, there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>way to avoid earthworm cds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So much for "veganic" gardening, huh. Twit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'll settle for as veganic as possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Which would NOT be "veganic."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>For instance, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have no qualms about killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>aphids. They are a pest. However
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>earthworms are not a pest and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>therefore a bit more wrong on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the wrongness scale. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balanced out by how unavoidable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the earthworm deaths are, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>how a well nourished soil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>supports hopefully more than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it kills.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hehe! I just LOVE watching you SQUIRM between your stated
>>>>>
>>>>>principle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>("killing animals is wrong") and reality, Skanky.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The reality is that it's MOSTLY wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>That's not reality, crackpot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>No squirming needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You're squirming between your BS principle and your daily
>>>
>>>practice.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>No
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yes. You're squirming like the still-living worm half.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You're setting up strawmen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've not made any strawman, Skanky. I've addressed your points and
>>>>>>>>subsequent spin head-on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You keep setting up a killer
>>>>>>>accusation without the mostly
>>>>>>>added in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That doesn't ****ing matter, Skanky. Is a spree or serial killer
>>>>>>"better" or "ethical" for killing fewer people than he desired to
>
> kill?
>
>>>>>Yes, the fewer the better. Just
>>>>>like cds, almost.
>>>>
>>>>You're pretty ****ed up if you think someone is "better" or "more
>>>>ethical" for killing 40 people instead of 50.
>>
>>"****ed up" is an understatement. Your moral confusion is incorrigible.
>>
>>
>>>>>The spree
>>>>>killing is avoidable altogether,
>>>>>but the cds aren't.
>>>>
>>>>Then why would you prate that "veganic" foods will be on supermarket
>>>>shelves one day? You idiot!
>>>
>>>Hopefully new and better
>>>healthy farming methods will
>>>come about.
>>
>>They have: tractors are a technological advance. You stupid shit, you
>>don't even realize you're arguing for subsistence agriculture -- NOT
>>"new and improved" farming.
>
> Where are you getting this
> subsistence farming from?

"Veganic" = subsistence

> Why can't more animal
> friendly equipment

The problem isn't the equipment, it's the phony principles you stupidly
espouse.

> Only the years will tell.

The years have already told us that "serious vegetarians" are stuck
below 2% of the entire population. You're ****ed if you're going to wait
for others to practice what YOU preach. Stupid bitch.

>>>>>>>That changes its
>>>>>>>context completely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No, idiot, the context is the *same*. You're only spinning to dismiss
>
> or
>
>>>>>>deflect from your guilt.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not guilty of other people's cds.
>>>>
>>>>You're guilty of them from your food choices. Stop passing the buck.
>>>
>>>I pass
>>
>>I know you do. It's your chronic excuse for not taking any
>>responsibility for your own actions.
>
> Stop snipping my quotes if
> you want a serious reply.

I gave up on any serious reply from you back in December, Skanky. Too
bad you squandered that opportunity the way you've squandered all the
chances you've had for a better life.