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Mike Avery
 
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Jane Lumley wrote:

> IMHO, the difference between my amateur efforts and those of Kayser et
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>al is shaping and technique, not oven magic.
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>

I think Reinhard suggested that the oven is responsible for about 10% of
a bread's quality.

Clearly, an oven can be destructive (burned bread), but beyond that, the
differences may not be as extreme as some would like to think.

Mike