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On 22 Feb 2005 22:32:40 GMT, (Hunt) wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>>Dear All,
>>I am new here. Enjoy drinking good wine once in a while and since I am lucky
>>enough to have a nice person around me presenting me a few bottles of wine
>>every few months, I am right now starting to enjoy it even more. Still
>>though, I do not have much real knowledge about wine yet. I would
>>appreciate, if someone could tell me some more about the following bottle of
>>wine:
>>
>>Cru Bourgeois
>>Ancienne Seigneurie des Comtes de Ségur
>>Vin de Bordeaux Grand
>>Chateau Ségur
>>Haut - Médoc
>>Appellation Haut - Médoc Controlée
>>1998
>>Grazioli, Viticulteur A 33290 Parempuyre - France
>>Mis en bouteille au Chateau
>>
>>is all that is to be read on the bottle. Is that a bottle of wine that I
>>should be keeping a few more months or years to be better? Is it worth
>>keeping for a while before drinking it or is it nothing too special? What
>>about the price in money?
>>
>>I'd be happy about just any information you might be able to give me about
>>that wine.
>>
>>Thanks, Bastian
>
>Welcome Bastian,
>
>I am not familiar with Chateau Ségur, but the Cru Bourgeois is a bit of clue
>as to the placement in the hierarchy of Bdx. If you call the classified
>growths as the top 5-10% of the Bdx wines, then you have a very large group of
>Cru Bourgeois making up around the next 20%. Within that group, there are
>basically three classifications: Cru Bourgeois Exceptionnel (maybe 5%), Cru
>Bourgeois Superieur (maybe 30%), then the rest is simply Cru Bourgeois. I do
>not know how 1998 was for St-Estèphe, but considering that this wine is
>somewhat near the "middle" of the Bdx production, it will probably not be
>great. However, it might well be a very enjoyable wine, as most Cru Bourgeois,
>regardless of hierarchy, are. I hope someone knows this wine and is familiar
>with the '98 vintage, to give you an idea of wheter it is a hold, or drink-now
>wine. I'd lean, out of ignorance, to drinking it now, but see what others say,
>in case this happened to be a tannic monster, needing a few more years to
>develop beyond its lineage.
>
>Hunt

A few more clues...

In the last classification Chateau Ségur is a Cru Bourgeois Superieur,
and is from Parempuyre in Haut-Médoc. Not St-Estèphe - were you
confusing with Phélan Ségur maybe, Hunt?

Otherwise I can find nothing about it. Nothing on wine-searcher.com
for example.

Would the "Ancienne Seigneurie des Comtes de Ségur" suggest it is a
2nd label, I wonder?

A couple of charts I have just suggest 98 Medocs may still be too
young for drinking now.

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Steve Slatcher
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